New MDesign carbon fiber intake =]

[SHOdded]

It is  common for start-up manufacturers to not have product liability insurance.... which would cover the engine damage if there were any... and we all know where that would have to go to get the engine repaired.

Most performance products that I have seen are "at your own risk" and at most will cover refund/replacement of the part in question.  Maybe products from the performance division of the vehicle manufacturer will cover more than that, IDK.  BTW, isn't the Hellcat intake setup questionable in all-season weather?

[14SHOCAR]

I don't recall seeing any drains in the oem box.

I'll check tomorrow on my stock intake box. I don't recall either.

The stock bottom intake piece has a 90ish degree bend where the inlet is into the box. The water would hit this and drain down wards in the intake box.

The Mdesign concerns me only because it wouldn't take a whole a lot water to fill up to a level where it would hit the bottom of the canister filter. If the car was on an incline, it would drain into the turbos and game over.

I'd love to hear from MDesign as well.. Again, if we can address these questions it's something I'd be very interested in.

Most performance products that I have seen are "at your own risk"

Their T&C is missing this. Perhaps they should update that

[FoMoCoSHO]

I do remember there were no signs of water penetration anywhere inside the box. Since the MDesign uses the oem snorkel, I'm guessing it's OK.

[SHO n GO]

Took my car to the car wash and gave it a good hose down to get off what i hope is the last major salting of the roads up here. Intake stayed dry, stock box dosent have a drain i looked at mine. Talked to MDesign and they have tested it on there vehicle for a year and have driven in rains, hit puddles, and snow ect with no problems.  Still will keep an eye on it every few good rains and report back.

[FoMoCoSHO]

I don't recall seeing any drains in the oem box.

gotcha! the way the post was it looked like you asked the question and answered it next....
Its a very good point though! I'd be worried about water getting sucked in. Looking forward to MDesign chiming in..

I think you have your users confused, that was my first post in the thread.

[11BLKFX4EB]

I don't recall seeing any drains in the oem box.

gotcha! the way the post was it looked like you asked the question and answered it next....
Its a very good point though! I'd be worried about water getting sucked in. Looking forward to MDesign chiming in..

I think you have your users confused, that was my first post in the thread.

Fixed...

[MDesign Performance]

Any one thoughts on this?

I see you're a fairly new user just registering, all of you concerns have been answered in the past and the answers can be found throughout this forum. I'd strongly suggest searching and you will most likely answer every question you have asked/will ask!

To chime in though, the MDesign intake uses the OEM intake air inlet just as the OEM system does and the probability of water entering the intake is just as likely with the OEM intake. The OEM intake has no drains, it is a sealed unit just as all (if not all then most) OEM manufacturers intakes are designed and MDesign intake is designed. Furthermore, there are a number of vehicles with the intake along with the intake on my own personal vehicle for over 40,000 miles through floods, heavy rain, and snow with no issues.

I do remember there were no signs of water penetration anywhere inside the box. Since the MDesign uses the oem snorkel, I'm guessing it's OK.

^^ This 100%. The engineers at Ford knew what they were doing when they placed the inlet tucked in behind the grill and up against the hood.

[14SHOCAR]

I see you're a fairly new user just registering, all of you concerns have been answered in the past and the answers can be found throughout this forum.

Being a new user, you should know I don't know all the threads out there. I was responding to the present post and asking questions about the setup.

A suggestion for you being a seasoned Forum go-er, update your FAQ on your website to answer all these questions and people can do the proper research instead of asking questions

Thanks for the response.

[11BLKFX4EB]

Any one thoughts on this?

I see you're a fairly new user just registering, all of you concerns have been answered in the past and the answers can be found throughout this forum. I'd strongly suggest searching and you will most likely answer every question you have asked/will ask!

To chime in though, the MDesign intake uses the OEM intake air inlet just as the OEM system does and the probability of water entering the intake is just as likely with the OEM intake. The OEM intake has no drains, it is a sealed unit just as all (if not all then most) OEM manufacturers intakes are designed and MDesign intake is designed. Furthermore, there are a number of vehicles with the intake along with the intake on my own personal vehicle for over 40,000 miles through floods, heavy rain, and snow with no issues.

I do remember there were no signs of water penetration anywhere inside the box. Since the MDesign uses the oem snorkel, I'm guessing it's OK.

^^ This 100%. The engineers at Ford knew what they were doing when they placed the inlet tucked in behind the grill and up against the hood.

I think a few of us had the same, legit, concerns. And the search function isnt all that great here. Thanks for taking the time to answer....
Have you had this particular intake for 40,000 miles? Just curious as to how long this has been out. I thought it was fairly new.

[FoMoCoSHO]

Any one thoughts on this?

I see you're a fairly new user just registering, all of you concerns have been answered in the past and the answers can be found throughout this forum. I'd strongly suggest searching and you will most likely answer every question you have asked/will ask!

To chime in though, the MDesign intake uses the OEM intake air inlet just as the OEM system does and the probability of water entering the intake is just as likely with the OEM intake. The OEM intake has no drains, it is a sealed unit just as all (if not all then most) OEM manufacturers intakes are designed and MDesign intake is designed. Furthermore, there are a number of vehicles with the intake along with the intake on my own personal vehicle for over 40,000 miles through floods, heavy rain, and snow with no issues.

I do remember there were no signs of water penetration anywhere inside the box. Since the MDesign uses the oem snorkel, I'm guessing it's OK.

^^ This 100%. The engineers at Ford knew what they were doing when they placed the inlet tucked in behind the grill and up against the hood.

I think a few of us had the same, legit, concerns. And the search function isnt all that great here. Thanks for taking the time to answer....
Have you had this particular intake for 40,000 miles? Just curious as to how long this has been out. I thought it was fairly new.

Did you search from the home forum screen?

If you are in a child board, you will only get results from under where you are at, if that makes any sense...

[BiGMaC]

Water... might be possible, but short of immersing the car I am unable to get water to my underhood anything or in the intake of the CAI with prolonged and extensive 3100PSI PW weekly since I got one of the first 5 MDesign CAIs built.  Several driving rainstorms and we had our 100year flood due to some of them... Water won't get in... the intake was well designed... mine has been on my car since build date 9/13... even says dry when I PW the engine.. Testing... always happy to read and don't discount any offhand.

[SHOdded]

Yeah, the search is context sensitive that way.  If you want to search the forum, start here:
http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php?action=forum

[11BLKFX4EB]

Water... might be possible, but short of immersing the car I am unable to get water to my underhood anything or in the intake of the CAI with prolonged and extensive 3100PSI PW weekly since I got one of the first 5 MDesign CAIs built.  Several driving rainstorms and we had our 100year flood due to some of them... Water won't get in... the intake was well designed... mine has been on my car since build date 9/13... even says dry when I PW the engine.. Testing... always happy to read and don't discount any offhand.

This is great to hear! I'll be ordering mine here soon. Might come in place of the dp's now. ... :/

[14SHOCAR]

To chime in though, the MDesign intake uses the OEM intake air inlet just as the OEM system does and the probability of water entering the intake is just as likely with the OEM intake. The OEM intake has no drains, it is a sealed unit just as all (if not all then most) OEM manufacturers intakes are designed and MDesign intake is designed.

Ok, so there was a bit of misinformation pertaining to the factory intake box here that I want to clarify:

#1 I took a look at my factory intake last night from my 2014 SHO and it DOES have three drain holes at the bottom of the box. Two are under the intake itself and 1 where the outside inlet meets the factory inlet box. See picture below:


#2 Outside inlet has two 90 degree bends. where any water would have to hit before it hits the filter element. By then, it would drain out the bottom. See picture below:


#3 Pertaining to the water concern, I'm assuming Ford put holes in the intake box for a reason. If you take a look at my intake box, it shows clear signs of water & other outside elements from that inlet.


#4 Where I stand corrected, there is no DIRECT path for water to get into the intake. The hood seal closes off the front inlet, however, water can still get through the bottom radiator portion at highway speeds. The front radiator has a rounded piece that blocks direct water from making it into the inlet. See below:


I am still not 100% convinced that the MDesign still doesn't need a fail safe for water. I love the look, but I don't believe that water never makes it into the sealed canister; I think that is a bold statement given the drain holes in the factory box... My factory box shows that water makes it into the intake box...

Thoughts? 

[11BLKFX4EB]

Interesting....

The odd thing is the placement of the drain holes. Why is the bottom of the tray "squared off" ? The section is almost squared off. Why wouldnt it be smooth on the bottom to allow for the water to run to the drain holes? It definitely held some bit of water at some point....almost look like salt form the roads.
From the others who have this setup, and have had it for a while now, I dont think there is any issue but I can see where you're coming from.