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Power Transfer Unit (PTU) Oil Cooler

Started by MDesign Performance, March 09, 2015, 11:06:26 AM

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MDesign Performance

Anyone interested in a PTU oil cooler setup? The PTU's on the EcoBoost SHO/Explorer/Flex and MKS/MKT have a issue with their PTU fluid overheating to horrible condition and causing failures. Hardest part of the install will be tapping the PTU for the return/feed barb fittings.
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Wouldn't it be easier or more cost effective to retrofit with the items from ford from the pp cars?
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MDesign Performance

Quote from: ajpturbo on March 09, 2015, 12:15:02 PM
Wouldn't it be easier or more cost effective to retrofit with the items from ford from the pp cars?

No this was looked into, the oil cooler is built into the PTU. This setup would involve a racing pump that is able to handle a continuous on of 1,000 hours. You would need to tap a barb fitting at the top of the PTU for feed, one at the bottom of the PTU for return, and it will use a air cooler that would mount upfront. The pump will then be powered to a accessory 12v and then you will have continuous flow to the PTU, as well as the ability to add a bit more fluid to increase it's small fluid capacity limit.

Total cost will be $4-500 and the hardest part of the install will be tapping the PTU, rest is mounting the lines and air cooler up front. Much more simpler than retrofitting the PP PTU with built in oil cooler, also should perform better using a racing pump.
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bamsho

Yeah I might cost little more, put putting the setup off a '13+ PP car would be a better way to go.  Since FORD did all the work, you just need to buy the correct hoses, swap out, and route them, all done, plus you might as well put the oil cooler on too. 
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Airbornemaikai

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So if the PP setup fixes this problem, what is the difference between the no pp setup? Just curious as I have a 14 Explorer Sport and just had my PTU replaced because it was bad and overheating, doesn't seem like we have any alternatives.
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bamsho

From pictures I have been looking at.  The drivers side is different.  PP and police packaged cars have a different drivers side plate and has a place for factory cooler lines to hook into.  I understand what Mdesign is doing, but don't like the idea of putting aux pump and another cooler in front of car.  It almost comes to packaging problem again.  Trust me, been looking at it here too.
2013 white Gen 5.  Gearhead Intercooler, Turbosmart wastegate actuators, Alky Controls meth kit, Livernois catted downpipes,  Livernois Corsa cat back black etched tips.  2016 True Street Champion.

AJP turbo

For the non pp guys I would get on a regimen of changing the ptu fluid once every two years and get a real synthetic oil in there and call it a day...amsoil severe gear is what u want
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3 bar 93 tune, Airaid, Stainless Works non catted DP's  
405whp/520tq
Dyno
     
Current:2016 F150 2.7 Ecoboost
Tuning in progress

MDesign Performance

Quote from: bamsho on March 09, 2015, 03:05:54 PM
Yeah I might cost little more, put putting the setup off a '13+ PP car would be a better way to go.  Since FORD did all the work, you just need to buy the correct hoses, swap out, and route them, all done, plus you might as well put the oil cooler on too.

You'll need a PP PTU, not only the lines. You're looking at $2-3,000 as appose to a oil cooler kit for around $4-500.

http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php?topic=1786.0
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65fastback2+2


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IIRC newer PTU ('13+) has fill and drain plugs so for the newer vehicles it would be very easy to add a cooler set up using hoses connected to these existing openings with a pump as suggested.

For anyone who replaces their PTU on their own dime you could use the PP PTU with a stock cooler, have hoses made to connect the stock cooler to a small "radiator" set up with a pump to circulate a coolant mix through the system.

Just a thought.
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nickstewartroc

Looks like you can get a new PTU on the 'bay for under 700 too!
Current:
2013 Ruby Red Flex Limited EcoBoost, Unleashed Tuned, drop in filter

Gone but not forgotten: 2011 SHO Non-PP in Black Tuxedo Metallic - Catback, DPs, Stoptech Z23s, MDesign CAI, LMS Tune