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Started by jimmyducati, December 25, 2014, 11:32:09 AM

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jimmyducati

December 25, 2014, 11:32:09 AM
I want to do some data logging to help find the hesitation problem my 10 SHO is having, but don't want to spend a fortune investing in a mega load of software/hardware to do it. I am a Mac, so iPhone, iPad, MacBook compatible stuff would be awesome. Any suggestions?
2010 White SHO w/two tone interior
2005 Ducati 999s  (the daily ridder)
1998 Ducati 916  (the beauty queen)
1995 Ducati 900ss (the track terror)
1978 Harley Davidson Shovelhead

SHOdded

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December 25, 2014, 11:49:45 AM
I know Dynolicious on the Mac platform is supposed to be a great software for getting an HP/TQ approximation, but as far as actual datalogging, no idea.  The most commonly used & liked (and cheapest) software is Torque/Torque Pro on the Android platform, with an ELM.327 bluetooth dongle for the OBD port.  Easy to log to CSV file for analysis.

Forscan has just come out with their software for the iPad/iPhone (used to be Windows only), needs an OBD WiFi adapter (about $100 - couple of brands available) to work.  I am still testing that with the OBDLink WiFi adapter, no comments on usability/logging yet.  It has options to save as CSV/EMail a CSV file etc, though.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

MDesign Performance

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December 25, 2014, 12:58:40 PM
I'm in the same boat as you, the only solution I found for us Mac users would be to dual boot your Mac with Windows. You can partition just enough for the OS and leave the rest untouched for your Mac.
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Josephm

#3
December 25, 2014, 01:08:37 PM
The partioning is probably the best idea
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jimmyducati

#4
December 27, 2014, 05:31:13 PM
Quote from: SHOdded on December 25, 2014, 11:49:45 AM
I know Dynolicious on the Mac platform is supposed to be a great software for getting an HP/TQ approximation, but as far as actual datalogging, no idea.  The most commonly used & liked (and cheapest) software is Torque/Torque Pro on the Android platform, with an ELM.327 bluetooth dongle for the OBD port.  Easy to log to CSV file for analysis.

Forscan has just come out with their software for the iPad/iPhone (used to be Windows only), needs an OBD WiFi adapter (about $100 - couple of brands available) to work.  I am still testing that with the OBDLink WiFi adapter, no comments on usability/logging yet.  It has options to save as CSV/EMail a CSV file etc, though.

Sucks that the OS platform has been so slow to do "productive" tasks like this... I hate the idea of buying an android tablet to do this, but it will probably be cheaper in the long run than having my local dealer take the car and drive it until they can figure out what is wrong with it... so far, they have only wanted to throw parts at it and see what fixes the problem.

Maybe one of my non-mac friends has an android tablet i can borrow for a few days?
2010 White SHO w/two tone interior
2005 Ducati 999s  (the daily ridder)
1998 Ducati 916  (the beauty queen)
1995 Ducati 900ss (the track terror)
1978 Harley Davidson Shovelhead

jimmyducati

#5
December 27, 2014, 05:50:05 PM
So, will the torque program be able to help identify what is causing the hesitation issue with my SHO? it seems a bit more user friendly than forsaken, just comparing the two websites at a glance.
2010 White SHO w/two tone interior
2005 Ducati 999s  (the daily ridder)
1998 Ducati 916  (the beauty queen)
1995 Ducati 900ss (the track terror)
1978 Harley Davidson Shovelhead

SHOdded

#6
December 27, 2014, 06:11:56 PM
It can log enough parameters to drive you nuts!  Be sure to log WHAT you were doing alongside the data gathered:  engine hot/cold, flat road (preferable), accessories on/off, etc.  That should help get a better understanding of what might be happening, if anything, with the engine.  Torque Pro (5 bucks) will let you log in tenth of a second intervals, so we can catch transitional events easier.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

jimmyducati

#7
December 28, 2014, 07:37:00 PM
I scored an unused galexy S3 from a family member and will be using the bluetooth connector and the torque pro program. Just so I don't buy the wrong bluetooth adaptor, is there a specific brand or model that works (best) with the torque app, or do all of them just serve the purpose of connecting car to phone? I searched for "ELM.327 Bluetooth dongle" and it came back with quite a few different obdII style adaptors that all claim they "read" information.

This is the first one that comes up in the amazon search:
http://www.amazon.com/Version-Bluetooth-OBD-Multi-Language-12Kinds/dp/B00N2K6M2A/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1419813046&sr=8-1&keywords=ELM.327#productDetails
2010 White SHO w/two tone interior
2005 Ducati 999s  (the daily ridder)
1998 Ducati 916  (the beauty queen)
1995 Ducati 900ss (the track terror)
1978 Harley Davidson Shovelhead

SHOdded

#8
December 28, 2014, 07:50:03 PM
They all work basically the same way to connect phone & OBD port.  Personally, I run the OBDLink MX for best reliability & data rate refresh.  It IS somewhat expensive at $100, so the next best I'd use is the BAFX BT adapter:
http://www.amazon.com/BAFX-Products-Bluetooth-diagnostics-Android/dp/B005NLQAHS/

I know others on this forum are using even less expensive BT adapters, hope they chime in soon!
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

jimmyducati

#9
December 28, 2014, 08:00:50 PM
went ahead and ordered the BAFX BT adaptor, should be here by the 31st i hope!
2010 White SHO w/two tone interior
2005 Ducati 999s  (the daily ridder)
1998 Ducati 916  (the beauty queen)
1995 Ducati 900ss (the track terror)
1978 Harley Davidson Shovelhead

SHOnUup

#10
December 29, 2014, 08:36:37 AM
Quote from: jimmyducati on December 28, 2014, 08:00:50 PM
went ahead and ordered the BAFX BT adaptor, should be here by the 31st i hope!
Great buy, enjoy the endless fun of monitoring the ride in real time!

Rich

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Added since...PPE catless Dpipes, Megan coilovers, Powergrid adjustable end links, and EBC slotted rotors and red stuff pads.
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