tom:
i'm sure I went with what old wheels used, which i think is 13/16". i like to rotate my own tires. don't like anybody touching my wheels unless they have to. so i'm a little unclear. my escape uses same size socket, but challenger uses a diff size & i think it's a 3/4". but those black shorty's look real good on my wheels, just have to use an extension on the socket. by the way got some of sockets with the plastic around them to protect the wheels. love them as well.