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Started by wasinger3000, September 04, 2014, 05:41:33 PM

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wasinger3000

I am trying to find out what mix of methanol to water I should be using. I've done several days worth of Internet research and still have not found a solid answer.

Many say 100% meth because of its octane. Others day a mix with water is best to reduce Temps and fight detonation. I found that during winter months the intake temperatures will not be hot enough to vaporize the water and may cause water to forum droplets on the intake manifold.

I am also concerned about tuning from summer to winter if using a water/meth mix since intake temperatures will affect the evaporation.

I really don't know what to belive or what is best for our platform.

If you could post what mix you run, why it's best, and what gph nozzle you use I would appreciate it.

Thank you! 
13' SHO, Non-PP, Tuned by Torrie, Meth injection, 3 bar, 170* stat, custom axle back exhaust, Prosport Boost gauge.
15' F150 Lariat Sport, all the options, 3.5L Eco. (fiancée ride.)
13' GTCS, will be missed.

black99lightning

2013 Esport 13.44 @ 103.6
1999 Lightning 12.44 @ 108.4
2012 GT500 10.96 @ 130.6
2006 GTO 12.83 @ 107.8
2013 CTSV coupe 11.79 @ 119.7

crash712us

As far with are cars. I think most of us use 100% meth.


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2011 tuxedo black non pp, LMS stage 5, Corsa cat back, LMS down pipes, Airaid, Alky control meth injection, Megan Racing coil overs, EBC rotor&pads, Mobsteel grill, 2013 trans cooler. 403whp 417wtq 12.25 @ 110

scap99


wasinger3000

Quote from: scap99 on September 04, 2014, 08:56:57 PM
I'm back down to 75/25 meth to water.
What made you go back down? I am thinking this is a good mix to go with.

Are you mixing by volume or by mass? Since methabol is lighter than water it needs to be weighed to get the correct mix.
13' SHO, Non-PP, Tuned by Torrie, Meth injection, 3 bar, 170* stat, custom axle back exhaust, Prosport Boost gauge.
15' F150 Lariat Sport, all the options, 3.5L Eco. (fiancée ride.)
13' GTCS, will be missed.

scap99

Quote from: wasinger3000 on September 04, 2014, 09:54:21 PM
Quote from: scap99 on September 04, 2014, 08:56:57 PM
I'm back down to 75/25 meth to water.
What made you go back down? I am thinking this is a good mix to go with.

Are you mixing by volume or by mass? Since methabol is lighter than water it needs to be weighed to get the correct mix.

I'm running E48, so I guess the extra octane was not really needed.  Erick at LET told be to start cutting it down a bit.

I mix by volume.  I don't have a scale accurate enough to even consider mixing by weight.

wasinger3000

Quote from: scap99 on September 04, 2014, 09:58:50 PM
Quote from: wasinger3000 on September 04, 2014, 09:54:21 PM
Quote from: scap99 on September 04, 2014, 08:56:57 PM
I'm back down to 75/25 meth to water.
What made you go back down? I am thinking this is a good mix to go with.

Are you mixing by volume or by mass? Since methabol is lighter than water it needs to be weighed to get the correct mix.

I'm running E48, so I guess the extra octane was not really needed.  Erick at LET told be to start cutting it down a bit.

I mix by volume.  I don't have a scale accurate enough to even consider mixing by weight.
I'm jealous of the trucks fuel system. Hah.

I figured it out. Mix 1.25 lbs of water with 3.75 lbs of meth for a 5 lb mix of 75m/25w.

Any scale would do.
13' SHO, Non-PP, Tuned by Torrie, Meth injection, 3 bar, 170* stat, custom axle back exhaust, Prosport Boost gauge.
15' F150 Lariat Sport, all the options, 3.5L Eco. (fiancée ride.)
13' GTCS, will be missed.

scap99

Quote from: wasinger3000 on September 04, 2014, 10:10:52 PM
Quote from: scap99 on September 04, 2014, 09:58:50 PM
Quote from: wasinger3000 on September 04, 2014, 09:54:21 PM
Quote from: scap99 on September 04, 2014, 08:56:57 PM
I'm back down to 75/25 meth to water.
What made you go back down? I am thinking this is a good mix to go with.

Are you mixing by volume or by mass? Since methabol is lighter than water it needs to be weighed to get the correct mix.

I'm running E48, so I guess the extra octane was not really needed.  Erick at LET told be to start cutting it down a bit.

I mix by volume.  I don't have a scale accurate enough to even consider mixing by weight.
I'm jealous of the trucks fuel system. Hah.

I figured it out. Mix 1.25 lbs of water with 3.75 lbs of meth for a 5 lb mix of 75m/25w.

Any scale would do.

Water being 8# to the gallon, that wouldn't be much total volume...
I mix my meth 5 gallons at a time.

wasinger3000

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Quote from: scap99 on September 04, 2014, 10:13:33 PM
Quote from: wasinger3000 on September 04, 2014, 10:10:52 PM
Quote from: scap99 on September 04, 2014, 09:58:50 PM
Quote from: wasinger3000 on September 04, 2014, 09:54:21 PM
Quote from: scap99 on September 04, 2014, 08:56:57 PM
I'm back down to 75/25 meth to water.
What made you go back down? I am thinking this is a good mix to go with.

Are you mixing by volume or by mass? Since methabol is lighter than water it needs to be weighed to get the correct mix.

I'm running E48, so I guess the extra octane was not really needed.  Erick at LET told be to start cutting it down a bit.

I mix by volume.  I don't have a scale accurate enough to even consider mixing by weight.
I'm jealous of the trucks fuel system. Hah.

I figured it out. Mix 1.25 lbs of water with 3.75 lbs of meth for a 5 lb mix of 75m/25w.

Any scale would do.

Water being 8# to the gallon, that wouldn't be much total volume...
I mix my meth 5 gallons at a time.
5 lbs total would be just about 1 gallon. I  know a lot of people on other forums figured out the volume method was way off. So they weigh it now. Use a bathroom scale if you want.

I could figure out 5 gallons. Assuming meth weighs around 6.63lbs per gallon. Five gallons would weigh 33.15 lbs. 75% of 33.15 lbs is 24.86lbs. So weigh in 24.86 lbs of meth and then add in 8.29lbs of water for the other 25%.
13' SHO, Non-PP, Tuned by Torrie, Meth injection, 3 bar, 170* stat, custom axle back exhaust, Prosport Boost gauge.
15' F150 Lariat Sport, all the options, 3.5L Eco. (fiancée ride.)
13' GTCS, will be missed.

scap99

Quote from: wasinger3000 on September 04, 2014, 10:27:33 PM
Quote from: scap99 on September 04, 2014, 10:13:33 PM
Quote from: wasinger3000 on September 04, 2014, 10:10:52 PM
Quote from: scap99 on September 04, 2014, 09:58:50 PM
Quote from: wasinger3000 on September 04, 2014, 09:54:21 PM
Quote from: scap99 on September 04, 2014, 08:56:57 PM
I'm back down to 75/25 meth to water.
What made you go back down? I am thinking this is a good mix to go with.

Are you mixing by volume or by mass? Since methabol is lighter than water it needs to be weighed to get the correct mix.

I'm running E48, so I guess the extra octane was not really needed.  Erick at LET told be to start cutting it down a bit.

I mix by volume.  I don't have a scale accurate enough to even consider mixing by weight.
I'm jealous of the trucks fuel system. Hah.

I figured it out. Mix 1.25 lbs of water with 3.75 lbs of meth for a 5 lb mix of 75m/25w.

Any scale would do.

Water being 8# to the gallon, that wouldn't be much total volume...
I mix my meth 5 gallons at a time.
5 lbs total would be just about 1 gallon. I  know a lot of people on other forums figured out the volume method was way off. So they weigh it now. Use a bathroom scale if you want.

I could figure out 5 gallons. Assuming meth weighs around 6lbs per gallon. Five gallons would weigh 30 lbs. 75% of 30 lbs is 22.49lbs. So weigh in 22.5 lbs of meth and then add in 8.5lbs of water for the other 25%.

Interesting.
I guess as long as you and your tuner are in agreement, on which method to use, it won't hurt anything.

PokerMunkee

Are you getting the Snow Performance kit?  Maybe give them a call.  Their office is located up here in Woodland Park, so they should have a good understanding about your winter questions. 
2013 SHO PP - Ignot Silver/Charcoal
Unleashed 91 tune w/ 3BAR, Corsa exhaust, LEDs everywhere
2011 F-250 6.2 CCSB FX4

wasinger3000

Quote from: scap99 on September 04, 2014, 10:33:01 PM
Quote from: wasinger3000 on September 04, 2014, 10:27:33 PM
Quote from: scap99 on September 04, 2014, 10:13:33 PM
Quote from: wasinger3000 on September 04, 2014, 10:10:52 PM
Quote from: scap99 on September 04, 2014, 09:58:50 PM
Quote from: wasinger3000 on September 04, 2014, 09:54:21 PM
Quote from: scap99 on September 04, 2014, 08:56:57 PM
I'm back down to 75/25 meth to water.
What made you go back down? I am thinking this is a good mix to go with.

Are you mixing by volume or by mass? Since methabol is lighter than water it needs to be weighed to get the correct mix.

I'm running E48, so I guess the extra octane was not really needed.  Erick at LET told be to start cutting it down a bit.

I mix by volume.  I don't have a scale accurate enough to even consider mixing by weight.
I'm jealous of the trucks fuel system. Hah.

I figured it out. Mix 1.25 lbs of water with 3.75 lbs of meth for a 5 lb mix of 75m/25w.

Any scale would do.

Water being 8# to the gallon, that wouldn't be much total volume...
I mix my meth 5 gallons at a time.
5 lbs total would be just about 1 gallon. I  know a lot of people on other forums figured out the volume method was way off. So they weigh it now. Use a bathroom scale if you want.

I could figure out 5 gallons. Assuming meth weighs around 6lbs per gallon. Five gallons would weigh 30 lbs. 75% of 30 lbs is 22.49lbs. So weigh in 22.5 lbs of meth and then add in 8.5lbs of water for the other 25%.

Interesting.
I guess as long as you and your tuner are in agreement, on which method to use, it won't hurt anything.
Yeah. I just want to know what works best. I guess on the cars we need more fuel so 100% is the better option.
13' SHO, Non-PP, Tuned by Torrie, Meth injection, 3 bar, 170* stat, custom axle back exhaust, Prosport Boost gauge.
15' F150 Lariat Sport, all the options, 3.5L Eco. (fiancée ride.)
13' GTCS, will be missed.

wasinger3000

Anyone know what our cars max boost is normally?  Trying to figure out turn on and full psi settings for the controller.

13' SHO, Non-PP, Tuned by Torrie, Meth injection, 3 bar, 170* stat, custom axle back exhaust, Prosport Boost gauge.
15' F150 Lariat Sport, all the options, 3.5L Eco. (fiancée ride.)
13' GTCS, will be missed.

SHOnUup

If they weigh different, would it try to separate after sitting for awhile?
2011 Sterling Gray Metallic SHO non PP,
12.4211 @ 110.28 Livernois 3bar tune & CAI,
Added since...PPE catless Dpipes, Megan coilovers, Powergrid adjustable end links, and EBC slotted rotors and red stuff pads.
Tommy Designs grille with carbon fiber hydrographics, fender badges and fog bezels hydrodipped also, tinted windows, head & taillights, debadged trunk with all chrome plasti-dipped, black calipers, obdlink mx scantool running torque pro on 7" tablet.

glock-coma


Quote from: wasinger3000 on September 05, 2014, 09:33:37 AM
Anyone know what our cars max boost is normally?  Trying to figure out turn on and full psi settings for the controller.

The highest I saw stock was 12.1


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AJPTURBO 2 BAR Tune Stock 14.1@100.3 / Tuned 12.83@107.7
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1997 SHO silver frost (sold)
1990 SHO triple black 5-speed (saved my life)