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Started by ShoBoat, August 12, 2014, 09:48:56 AM

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ShoBoat

#15
August 16, 2014, 02:19:11 PM
So I have been driving on these new plugs for about a day now.  The 6510 suggested by Panther and I have to say I like them. I also noticed the little KR events I was seeing are all but gone. The car does seem to pull a bit stronger, which would make sense with with the reduced KR events. 1 degree of KR is 2hp.
2012 Pearl White CTS-V Stock
2016 Fusion Titanium 2.0 EB Stock
2013 SHO Black on Black (Gone) PP, Unleashed Custom Tune, 170 TStat, SP534 Plugs, 3 Bar, Airaid Intake, PPE catted downpipes, Corsa Cat-back, H&R Springs. Focal 165KR Front Stage,2 JL W6 10 with Focal 800.1. 12.62 @ 110 mph.

Josephm

#16
August 16, 2014, 02:25:27 PM
Very nice--Good find
12' Flex EB
Unleashed X4
3rd Cat delete

SHOdded

#17
August 16, 2014, 03:30:14 PM
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

ShoBoat

#18
August 19, 2014, 02:51:02 PM
So in the car for a for a few days and I have been noticing more KR than with the stock plugs. Interesting but when I checked the OE plug with a gauge they are actually gapped at .32 not .30. I did gap the new plugs at .30. I am going to pull the plugs and re gap them to .32 and see what happens.

When I say more it's like 1.5 to 2 usually at WOT. Which is more annoying than a real danger at this point.


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2012 Pearl White CTS-V Stock
2016 Fusion Titanium 2.0 EB Stock
2013 SHO Black on Black (Gone) PP, Unleashed Custom Tune, 170 TStat, SP534 Plugs, 3 Bar, Airaid Intake, PPE catted downpipes, Corsa Cat-back, H&R Springs. Focal 165KR Front Stage,2 JL W6 10 with Focal 800.1. 12.62 @ 110 mph.

BiGMaC

#19
August 19, 2014, 03:16:58 PM
No problem with my remapped OEM SP534s. They are Iridium...

•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

SwampRat

#20
August 19, 2014, 03:52:05 PM
2013 SHO  ....  not mine anymore

2021 Edge ST

ShoBoat

#21
August 19, 2014, 04:01:21 PM
Interesting, I wonder what they have their plugs gapped at?


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2012 Pearl White CTS-V Stock
2016 Fusion Titanium 2.0 EB Stock
2013 SHO Black on Black (Gone) PP, Unleashed Custom Tune, 170 TStat, SP534 Plugs, 3 Bar, Airaid Intake, PPE catted downpipes, Corsa Cat-back, H&R Springs. Focal 165KR Front Stage,2 JL W6 10 with Focal 800.1. 12.62 @ 110 mph.

crash712us

#22
August 19, 2014, 08:15:58 PM
Correction I have been using Denso ITV-22, I changed them this summer to the motorcraft sp534's. Cause the Denso's were not readily available. I can tell you this the denso's looked excellent after 2yrs on them. I never checked the gaps on them, but they looked to good to toss.

2011 tuxedo black non pp, LMS stage 5, Corsa cat back, LMS down pipes, Airaid, Alky control meth injection, Megan Racing coil overs, EBC rotor&pads, Mobsteel grill, 2013 trans cooler. 403whp 417wtq 12.25 @ 110

SwampRat

#23
August 19, 2014, 08:22:44 PM
Quote from: crash712us on August 19, 2014, 08:15:58 PM
Correction I have been using Denso ITV-22, I changed them this summer to the motorcraft sp534's. Cause the Denso's were not readily available. I can tell you this the denso's looked excellent after 2yrs on them. I never checked the gaps on them, but they looked to good to toss.

Hhhmmm  ..... I stand corrected
2013 SHO  ....  not mine anymore

2021 Edge ST

ecoboostsho

#24
August 19, 2014, 08:25:44 PM
I use the Denso's as well...just checked them and they look good so far.
2013 White SHO w/PP, Gearhead Tuned, 3 Bar, 160T, Plugs...Mess with the Bull and you'll get the Horn. :)
Previous 2011 Tuxedo Black SHO w/PP - 12.89 1/4 Mile

SHOdded

#25
August 19, 2014, 09:31:06 PM
Quote from: crash712us on August 19, 2014, 08:15:58 PM
Correction I have been using Denso ITV-22, I changed them this summer to the motorcraft sp534's. Cause the Denso's were not readily available. I can tell you this the denso's looked excellent after 2yrs on them. I never checked the gaps on them, but they looked to good to toss.
So your top recommendations would be Motorcraft & Denso?
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

crash712us

#26
August 19, 2014, 09:41:27 PM
I can't tell a difference, car seems to run the same. Motorcrafts $25 Denso $60+ that would be the only difference I can note at this time.

2011 tuxedo black non pp, LMS stage 5, Corsa cat back, LMS down pipes, Airaid, Alky control meth injection, Megan Racing coil overs, EBC rotor&pads, Mobsteel grill, 2013 trans cooler. 403whp 417wtq 12.25 @ 110

ShoBoat

#27
August 20, 2014, 01:58:16 PM
Ok so some experimentation last night. Pulled the plugs and gapped them at .32, started getting misfire counts on FORSCan. Mind you there was 10 during the whole trip. But nevertheless 10. Whereas before at .30 there was 0. KR was not effected. I'm sure these intermittent misfires hurt performance I really couldn't feel a huge difference. Pulled the plugs and gapped them at exactly .30 misfires gone. So the moral if this story. Check the gaps and ensure they are actually at .30.   


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2012 Pearl White CTS-V Stock
2016 Fusion Titanium 2.0 EB Stock
2013 SHO Black on Black (Gone) PP, Unleashed Custom Tune, 170 TStat, SP534 Plugs, 3 Bar, Airaid Intake, PPE catted downpipes, Corsa Cat-back, H&R Springs. Focal 165KR Front Stage,2 JL W6 10 with Focal 800.1. 12.62 @ 110 mph.

crash712us

#28
August 20, 2014, 04:39:05 PM
Good info shoboat. I wish I knew more about ignitions or at least more details on coils and such. Cause narrowing the gap has its draw backs as well. Wider gaps have faster and flame propagation, but I have yet to see any spec's on the stock coils or even after market ones. And would more voltage allow you to run a larger gap and not have spark blowout. Ive seen testing on how spark gap has a big effect on efficiency and emissions.

2011 tuxedo black non pp, LMS stage 5, Corsa cat back, LMS down pipes, Airaid, Alky control meth injection, Megan Racing coil overs, EBC rotor&pads, Mobsteel grill, 2013 trans cooler. 403whp 417wtq 12.25 @ 110

ShoBoat

#29
August 20, 2014, 04:58:09 PM

Quote from: crash712us on August 20, 2014, 04:39:05 PM
Good info shoboat. I wish I knew more about ignitions or at least more details on coils and such. Cause narrowing the gap has its draw backs as well. Wider gaps have faster and flame propagation, but I have yet to see any spec's on the stock coils or even after market ones. And would more voltage allow you to run a larger gap and not have spark blowout. Ive seen testing on how spark gap has a big effect on efficiency and emissions.

Yup, and also idle quality. I have noticed that the idle is a touch rougher at .30 than .32. I wonder if the F150 coils work on the transverse EB? Sooner or later someone will come out with a coil back for those.


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2012 Pearl White CTS-V Stock
2016 Fusion Titanium 2.0 EB Stock
2013 SHO Black on Black (Gone) PP, Unleashed Custom Tune, 170 TStat, SP534 Plugs, 3 Bar, Airaid Intake, PPE catted downpipes, Corsa Cat-back, H&R Springs. Focal 165KR Front Stage,2 JL W6 10 with Focal 800.1. 12.62 @ 110 mph.
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