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Wheel Damage - Need Opinions!

Started by NAiLs, May 21, 2014, 11:19:56 PM

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NAiLs

So it's now July 10th and I last posted on this thread on June 1st.  Well, I am annoyed to say that this job still is NOT complete.

I spent a month dicking around with Kettle Moraine Coatings in Jackson, WI to get a color chosen and get everything squared away.  They did not want to clear coat the finish, even though they said they ABSOLUTELY would, but I insisted that I wanted it cleared, as that's what I've always read should be done, plus our wheels come cleared from the factory.  I want to protect the finish for myself and the next owner of this car, not for just a couple years.

Sand blasting was supposed to have been done "in-house" this time around, but apparently they have a neighboring shop do it.  I had asked for a quote on sand blasting, powder coating, and clearing at this point so I knew what to relay Goodyear.  I was told that guy wouldn't quote a sand blasting price until he was done with the work, which is super duper shady, IMO.  Then Kettle Moraine Coatings has the audacity to say they don't want to do my wheels the next day.  So I spent all this time with them and am back to square one.

I got in contact with another shop a little farther west than Kettle Moraine Coatings and they're happy to do it for $520, including stripping, powder coating, and clearing, which to me sounds like a spot on price.  Would everyone agree?  Also, instead of sand blasting, they're going to use an aluminum stripper to strip the paint off; They said this is a much safer method and is far less harsh compared to blasting.

FYI, to repair the paint job by sanding and painting (with zero guarantee on matching), it was going to cost $125 each wheel... so $500 for all four.  Plus it would be some time out for this job to be complete.  Powder is a 2-3 day job strictly because of the stripping.  This is why I'm going the powder route.

I'm just waiting for another shop to call me back with an estimate so I know how to compare, but the aforementioned shop has a much larger shop (170,000 sq ft vs 45,000 sq ft) and reputation than this second shop, so part of me is leaning towards them just for the quality standpoint.

Needless to say, Kettle Moraine Coatings will be getting highly negative online feedback from me in the near future.

I'm still looking to do a light gunmetal color, sort of like the TWS Nurburgrings, so I need to find a color similar.  My understanding is the clear coating will lighten up the color, correct?

SHOdded

Jeez, 2 months already!  Seems like smaller shops that do coatings & paint are not proving out lately.  I do know of a couple of painters out your way-ish that do an excellent job painting cars (saw it on shoforum, username quickSHOsilver), but I don't think they deal with powdercoating or wheels.  I have PM'd him, and will let you know what I hear back.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

NAiLs

Yep!  2 freaking months messing around with this.  I made sure to let the Goodyear guy know that I've been jerked around for quite some time, and he just said he figured I was taken care of and would see a bill any day now.  NOPE!

I may have officially chosen Hartford Finishing in Hartford, WI.  They seemed pretty nice, but the guy did make one snotty comment to me.  Goodyear wanted a quote in writing so they don't get screwed, and the guy at Hartford Finishing said that's bullshit.  I kept my cool because I just want this done by a reputable company.  I understand both sides of the fence, but I have to stick with Goodyear's standpoint on that one.  What's 3 minutes to write something up and email it to them, right?   ::)

I'll still take any closer recommendations down, just in-case this one falls though like the first one.  I also never did hear back from the second powder coating place, so I guess they don't want my business.

PokerMunkee

2013 SHO PP - Ignot Silver/Charcoal
Unleashed 91 tune w/ 3BAR, Corsa exhaust, LEDs everywhere
2011 F-250 6.2 CCSB FX4

SHOdded

2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

SHO-Time

#20
I'm sorry I didn't read the entire thread, but seeing as you're in my area, Hy-Tec Powder Coating in Waukesha is very good to work with and they're a bunch of cool guys.

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kinder

May be to late but when we have a damaged wheel to get repaired (I work for a car dealership) we have a few mobile rim repair guys we deal with. Always good work and they restore stuff to factory. Usually $125-$160 per wheel. Call a couple of larger dealerships and ask if they have someone they use for wheel repair?

Now it seems you are using a body shop to make repairs and a coating shop to coat it? I would just find a wheel repair guy and get them fixed by a person who does it for a living. Body shops tend not to fix rims they order new ones as it is usually being paid by an insurance company. ;)
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NAiLs

Well.... all is well again!  I found a dedicated powder coating guy out in Waukesha, WI, different person than what you recommended SHO-Time, and he did a great job.  He works for a company that powder coats wheels for a living, so he was my winner.

I gotta be honest, I really really wanted a grey tone on the wheel, but he only had something that actually closely represented the stock color of the wheel on hand.  I already liked the look of the silver wheel on this color car, but that's where I look back at at like the ST's Rado Grey or something even a little darker yet.  Oh well.  It has a very slight orange peel, but whatever... it looks great to me and you only see it if you're really looking for it.  He even fixed a few flaws the wheels had on them initially.  He mentioned a metallic powder coat commonly comes out with a slight orange peel, but honestly I didn't care enough.

Funny thing, Goodyear called me today with filler content asking me how satisfied I am, and then telling me a few people in the shop said I posted up negative reviews of their shop online, facebook, etc.  Fortunately for them, I have not (yet) and this is the only semi-public forum where I have.  They can't get to this post unless they register.  I also don't know anyone that works at that shop, let alone I hardly know anyone where I live...  Too funny.  I'm going to ask him to tell me where these negative reviews are.

Overall, the second time around with the tire install I'm happy.  It sucks it had to come to this, but it's fixed.  The guy who installed the tires saw me checking out the car and asked what I thought because he did the job.  I told him he did great work.  He mentioned he put the tires on by hand, and if that is really true, that must have been a biotch!

Excuse the car... she's dirty, but the wheels are clean!  I'll get a sunny side shot later tonight.  Next project is to wax up the wheels per the powder coater's suggestion!

PokerMunkee

Looks good!

Now tint those windows! lol.  I can't drive a car without tint...
2013 SHO PP - Ignot Silver/Charcoal
Unleashed 91 tune w/ 3BAR, Corsa exhaust, LEDs everywhere
2011 F-250 6.2 CCSB FX4

SHOdded

2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

NAiLs

Quote from: PokerMunkee on July 24, 2014, 02:49:44 PM
Looks good!

Now tint those windows! lol.  I can't drive a car without tint...

Oh you and me both!  Every time I sit in it, I can't stand factory windows.  I've got 35% in my G8, and while I'd like it darker, it still looks good and is close to WI legal limits.  I'm hoping to get that done before those ugly white flakes start flying.


Quote from: SHOdded on July 24, 2014, 02:56:28 PM
Wow, came out NICE!  Finally!

Thanks!  :)   I know, right?  I can't believe how long it took to get these darn things done!

NAiLs

#26
Haven't had much opportunity to snap a pic in sunlight because the weather has sucked and I spent about 10 hours detailing my G8 this past weekend... but here is a shot shortly after a storm passed.  I'm quite thrilled with the turnout.

Next car to get that kind of detailing treatment is the SHO... the wife's car can wait!  LOL!  Her's is leased, anyway.


Edit:

For the curious minds, I also attached pics of the G8 and the hard work I put into her.  :)

SHOdded

What's your detailing routine/equipment/products?  Can't argue with the results :thumb:
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

NAiLs

Quote from: SHOdded on July 28, 2014, 05:21:05 PM
What's your detailing routine/equipment/products?  Can't argue with the results :thumb:

Thanks!  :)

I use a series of Meguiar's Professional products as well as a synthetic wax.  My initial routine was going to be the M205, M7, Synthetic Wax, and then M26, but I had to skip the M7.  I tested an area with it and it seems my pad was a little too abrasive and introduced micro swirls.  I used the M205 again and it removed them.  I wanted a light cutting power and the M205 was my cure all!  I've also got a Porter Cable 7424xp buffer.

I made 6 passes over my paint, doing a 50% overlap and going up / down one pass and left / right the next... and you have to take your time and not hurry!  Working in small sections (2x2 is recommended) and wiping off immediately after you're done with that section so it doesn't dry... it would suck to take off if it dried!  I taped as much off as I could, before my roll ran out, just so I minimized spots that shouldn't get wax, polish, or glaze.  I wish I could have done the glaze, but unfortunately I need a different pad.

Wax, I did the synthetic wax first since it lasts a lot longer and gives a better shine, followed by the Carnauba.

Lanson

Good ol' 205. 

I prefer my CG products but man, if you don't have 205 sitting around, you're not really detailing.
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Mods: H&R, K&N, 22x9 & 22x10 3 piece forged wheels 265/35-22 Toyos, SCTX4 w/ 91 oct. Torrie tune