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PTU fluid change frustration

Started by ecoboostsho, July 17, 2014, 11:13:32 AM

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SHOdded

#135
September 08, 2014, 01:03:32 PM Last Edit: September 08, 2014, 01:15:32 PM by SHOdded
They did not update the TSB AFAIK, but the fix should apply to all 2010-12 SHOs, probably the Flex as well.  There is a possibility that the trans-PTU seal is leaking pushing trans fluid into the PTU, which then comes out of the vent tube.  Refer to this webpage.

Expert:  Kenny Z. replied 2 years ago.

22381 PTU INPUT SEAL - NEW ESSENTIAL SPECIAL SERVICE TOOL (ESST) AND WSM PROCEDURE

ESSENTIAL SPECIAL SERVICE TOOL (ESST) KIT #308-777 IS NOW AVAILABLE TO SERVICE THE PTU

INPUT SEAL (-7H469-) INSTEAD OF REPLACING THE PTU. ONLINE WORKSHOP MANUAL (WSM)
HAS BEEN UPDATED. REFER TO WSM, SECTION 308-07B. USE AVAILABLE SERVICE LABOR TIMES.

EFFECTIVE DATE: 31-MAY-2012

Kenny Z., Ford Senior Master Tech

The TSB 11-4-20 seems relevant here.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

ecoboostsho

#136
September 08, 2014, 01:07:09 PM
Awesome....not.  Hopefully that isn't my issue.  Very much appreciate your help.

This actually just started happening after the BG service on my Trans.  I didn't think it could be in anyway related but now I am wondering...maybe the pressure from the service damaged the seal and it is leaking it in to the PTU?
2013 White SHO w/PP, Gearhead Tuned, 3 Bar, 160T, Plugs...Mess with the Bull and you'll get the Horn. :)
Previous 2011 Tuxedo Black SHO w/PP - 12.89 1/4 Mile

SHOdded

#137
September 08, 2014, 01:11:12 PM
If it did, the seal was probably already on its' way out, unless there was a gross level of incompetence by the technician performing the service.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

ecoboostsho

#138
September 08, 2014, 01:13:39 PM
Quote from: SHOdded on September 08, 2014, 01:11:12 PM
If it did, the seal was probably already on its' way out, unless there was a gross level of incompetence by the technician performing the service.
Cool.  It wouldn't surprise me the seal was on its way out already given the fact that my PTU was so low on fluid and probably generating excess heat etc...that said if this is the issue I'm still not happy this happened right out of warranty with this crappy PTU.  If I'm going to spend the $500-$600 in labor I am going to contemplate just having them install a whole new PTU but I'm guessing those are expensive.
2013 White SHO w/PP, Gearhead Tuned, 3 Bar, 160T, Plugs...Mess with the Bull and you'll get the Horn. :)
Previous 2011 Tuxedo Black SHO w/PP - 12.89 1/4 Mile

ecoboostsho

#139
September 08, 2014, 01:14:10 PM
On the plus side the ATF will probably clean the rest of the sludge out of my PTU...LOL.
2013 White SHO w/PP, Gearhead Tuned, 3 Bar, 160T, Plugs...Mess with the Bull and you'll get the Horn. :)
Previous 2011 Tuxedo Black SHO w/PP - 12.89 1/4 Mile

SHOdded

#140
September 08, 2014, 01:16:14 PM Last Edit: September 08, 2014, 01:23:09 PM by SHOdded
Are you out of powertrain warranty?  5/60.  New PTU/PTOs are about $700 from dealer according to fordparts.com.  So tack on labor to that, 5-6 hours probably, and you are near $1,500 OOP.  Probably get a 2-yr warranty to go with, that's the good part.  Labor may be cheaper at a trusted mechanic.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

ecoboostsho

#141
September 08, 2014, 01:17:32 PM
Quote from: SHOdded on September 08, 2014, 01:16:14 PM
Are you out of powertrain warranty?
61K...ends at 60K correct?
2013 White SHO w/PP, Gearhead Tuned, 3 Bar, 160T, Plugs...Mess with the Bull and you'll get the Horn. :)
Previous 2011 Tuxedo Black SHO w/PP - 12.89 1/4 Mile

SHOdded

#142
September 08, 2014, 01:23:51 PM
Yup, but close enough to see if the dealer will cover it or at least split the cost with you.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

ecoboostsho

#143
September 08, 2014, 01:25:55 PM
Worth a shot!  Thanks again.
2013 White SHO w/PP, Gearhead Tuned, 3 Bar, 160T, Plugs...Mess with the Bull and you'll get the Horn. :)
Previous 2011 Tuxedo Black SHO w/PP - 12.89 1/4 Mile

SHOnUup

#144
June 03, 2015, 10:17:22 AM
Ahhhh...not going as smoothly this time...maybe 2 ounces and a drip

Rich

2011 Sterling Gray Metallic SHO non PP,
12.4211 @ 110.28 Livernois 3bar tune & CAI,
Added since...PPE catless Dpipes, Megan coilovers, Powergrid adjustable end links, and EBC slotted rotors and red stuff pads.
Tommy Designs grille with carbon fiber hydrographics, fender badges and fog bezels hydrodipped also, tinted windows, head & taillights, debadged trunk with all chrome plasti-dipped, black calipers, obdlink mx scantool running torque pro on 7" tablet.

ecoboostsho

#145
June 03, 2015, 10:36:31 AM
That's not good...
2013 White SHO w/PP, Gearhead Tuned, 3 Bar, 160T, Plugs...Mess with the Bull and you'll get the Horn. :)
Previous 2011 Tuxedo Black SHO w/PP - 12.89 1/4 Mile

SHOnUup

#146
June 03, 2015, 10:52:04 AM
Quote from: ecoboostsho on June 03, 2015, 10:36:31 AM
That's not good...
Think my pump is in a bad mood, I checked level prior and the hose in PTU is full of fluid, no suction for some reason.

Rich

2011 Sterling Gray Metallic SHO non PP,
12.4211 @ 110.28 Livernois 3bar tune & CAI,
Added since...PPE catless Dpipes, Megan coilovers, Powergrid adjustable end links, and EBC slotted rotors and red stuff pads.
Tommy Designs grille with carbon fiber hydrographics, fender badges and fog bezels hydrodipped also, tinted windows, head & taillights, debadged trunk with all chrome plasti-dipped, black calipers, obdlink mx scantool running torque pro on 7" tablet.

SHOdded

#147
June 03, 2015, 11:06:00 AM
Time for some ... FIRE IN THE HOLE!!!  Maybe do the oil change and use the used oil to "flush" the pump hose(s)?
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

glock-coma

#148
June 03, 2015, 11:35:09 AM
What diameter is your hose? I know it's a pretty tight fit going in the plug hole in trying to make the turn going down. Is it a rubber hose only. It may be binding or getting stuck not going all the way down
2010 red candy metallic non PP 402B
AJPTURBO 2 BAR Tune Stock 14.1@100.3 / Tuned 12.83@107.7
K&N panel, RX OCC, Sp-534 @.30 Tint 50%F-35%R BOV bypass
1997 SHO silver frost (sold)
1990 SHO triple black 5-speed (saved my life)

SHOnUup

#149
June 03, 2015, 11:51:12 AM
Same hose I had success with last year. Small diameter rubber hose. It's definitely getting in there. I can remove and wipe clean, then get another 3" of fluid on it each time.

Rich

2011 Sterling Gray Metallic SHO non PP,
12.4211 @ 110.28 Livernois 3bar tune & CAI,
Added since...PPE catless Dpipes, Megan coilovers, Powergrid adjustable end links, and EBC slotted rotors and red stuff pads.
Tommy Designs grille with carbon fiber hydrographics, fender badges and fog bezels hydrodipped also, tinted windows, head & taillights, debadged trunk with all chrome plasti-dipped, black calipers, obdlink mx scantool running torque pro on 7" tablet.
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