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Torque PIDs...Take 2

Started by ecoboostsho, June 07, 2014, 07:59:06 PM

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ecoboostsho

I believe so. Mine reacts pretty quick...
2013 White SHO w/PP, Gearhead Tuned, 3 Bar, 160T, Plugs...Mess with the Bull and you'll get the Horn. :)
Previous 2011 Tuxedo Black SHO w/PP - 12.89 1/4 Mile

FoMoCoSHO

Finally loaded these up. Thanks again for all your hard work!

wasinger3000

What is our cars weight with a full tank?  A little over 4500?
13' SHO, Non-PP, Tuned by Torrie, Meth injection, 3 bar, 170* stat, custom axle back exhaust, Prosport Boost gauge.
15' F150 Lariat Sport, all the options, 3.5L Eco. (fiancée ride.)
13' GTCS, will be missed.

ecoboostsho

4341 + 119 in gas = 4460 plus or minus depending on options I suppose. Then add yourself!
2013 White SHO w/PP, Gearhead Tuned, 3 Bar, 160T, Plugs...Mess with the Bull and you'll get the Horn. :)
Previous 2011 Tuxedo Black SHO w/PP - 12.89 1/4 Mile

wasinger3000

Thanks for the help! I'll see what i get with my e30 tune.
13' SHO, Non-PP, Tuned by Torrie, Meth injection, 3 bar, 170* stat, custom axle back exhaust, Prosport Boost gauge.
15' F150 Lariat Sport, all the options, 3.5L Eco. (fiancée ride.)
13' GTCS, will be missed.

FoMoCoSHO

I'm curious about your results, I think the highest I've seen is 346/338 TQ/HP from a 280-290ish baseline.

Torque calculates WHP/WTQ so the baseline correlates with the stock dynos I've seen.

FoMoCoSHO

Quote from: ecoboostsho on July 05, 2014, 01:05:28 PM
4341 + 119 in gas = 4460 plus or minus depending on options I suppose. Then add yourself!
When I had my car weighed, I was at 4690 with a full tank and me at 160 lBS.

If you have a trash dump that uses scales to calculate cost, the may give you your weight if you ask nicely.

FoMoCoSHO

Quote from: wasinger3000 on July 05, 2014, 01:01:49 PM
What is our cars weight with a full tank?  A little over 4500?

Did you have any luck with the AWD pid?

wasinger3000

Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on July 05, 2014, 02:34:17 PM
Quote from: ecoboostsho on July 05, 2014, 01:05:28 PM
4341 + 119 in gas = 4460 plus or minus depending on options I suppose. Then add yourself!
When I had my car weighed, I was at 4690 with a full tank and me at 160 lBS.

If you have a trash dump that uses scales to calculate cost, the may give you your weight if you ask nicely.

Was that with or without the spare tire? Spare weighs in at 39lbs. I replaced mine with fords performance pack tire fix kit.

No luck with the awd PID. Tired leaving it blank. Tried putting in AUTO but it still doesn't receive any data.
13' SHO, Non-PP, Tuned by Torrie, Meth injection, 3 bar, 170* stat, custom axle back exhaust, Prosport Boost gauge.
15' F150 Lariat Sport, all the options, 3.5L Eco. (fiancée ride.)
13' GTCS, will be missed.

wasinger3000

Is it possible to have a PID that shows the temperature difference between the intake temp and the post CAC temp?
13' SHO, Non-PP, Tuned by Torrie, Meth injection, 3 bar, 170* stat, custom axle back exhaust, Prosport Boost gauge.
15' F150 Lariat Sport, all the options, 3.5L Eco. (fiancée ride.)
13' GTCS, will be missed.

Larrylu

Yes you can. The method is laid out in this thread. I did it subtracting ambient from IAT2 (charge temp). Works great.
2010 Loaded, Non PP, Steel Blue Metallic, Livernois Stage 4+, Blacked out grill, Nexus 7 Tablet running Torque Pro

wasinger3000

Quote from: Larrylu on July 05, 2014, 07:56:15 PM
Yes you can. The method is laid out in this thread. I did it subtracting ambient from IAT2 (charge temp). Works great.

Ok i read pages 11 and 12 but i cant figure out what exactly needs to be done. How do i go about doing this?

I use this equation ( [ 46 ] * 1.8 ) + 32 and subtract it from? Kinda lost.. ha.
13' SHO, Non-PP, Tuned by Torrie, Meth injection, 3 bar, 170* stat, custom axle back exhaust, Prosport Boost gauge.
15' F150 Lariat Sport, all the options, 3.5L Eco. (fiancée ride.)
13' GTCS, will be missed.

ecoboostsho

You need to create 3 new PIDs as follows in the format of "Long Name", "Short Name", PID, Equation:

Intake Air Temp 2   IAT2   2203ca   (A-40)*1.8+32   
Ambient Temp   Ambient Temp      [46]*1.8+32   
Ambient to IAT2   Temp Diff      (VAL{Intake Air Temp 2})-(VAL{Ambient Temp})

Then add the gauge Ambient to IAT2 and that should get you the total "heatsoak"...The trick to the third gauge is that there isn't a PID...you leave it blank and then create an equation referencing the first two PIDs you created.

Hope that helps?
2013 White SHO w/PP, Gearhead Tuned, 3 Bar, 160T, Plugs...Mess with the Bull and you'll get the Horn. :)
Previous 2011 Tuxedo Black SHO w/PP - 12.89 1/4 Mile

Larrylu


Quote from: ecoboostsho on July 06, 2014, 07:52:26 AM
You need to create 3 new PIDs as follows in the format of "Long Name", "Short Name", PID, Equation:

Intake Air Temp 2IAT22203ca(A-40)*1.8+32
Ambient TempAmbient Temp[46]*1.8+32
Ambient to IAT2Temp Diff(VAL{Intake Air Temp 2})-(VAL{Ambient Temp})

Then add the gauge Ambient to IAT2 and that should get you the total "heatsoak"...The trick to the third gauge is that there isn't a PID...you leave it blank and then create an equation referencing the first two PIDs you created.

Hope that helps?

So that's the method, and the example formula would get you my heat soak gauge, but you are looking for the differential between CAC and IAT2 right? So substitute your desired PID's into the "calculating" PID. Voila...you have a powerful gauge making capability. One limitation is that I don't think that the built in gauges in Torque work as internal PID's inside this calculating PID.  The custom PID's work great with it though!  Have fun and share your idea/result!
2010 Loaded, Non PP, Steel Blue Metallic, Livernois Stage 4+, Blacked out grill, Nexus 7 Tablet running Torque Pro

ShoBoat

I was trying a new program last night on my car. And it gave me a mass air flow rate? Any thoughts? I'll see if I can get the PID for it later today.


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