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Torque PIDs...Take 2

Started by ecoboostsho, June 07, 2014, 07:59:06 PM

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Larrylu

It makes sense that the heat from the exhaust is the driving force here and not the T-Stat.
2010 Loaded, Non PP, Steel Blue Metallic, Livernois Stage 4+, Blacked out grill, Nexus 7 Tablet running Torque Pro

ShoBoat

I have been doing some data logging with Torque and Forscan, just to double check the accuracy of torque vs Forscan. For the most part it looks like the PIDs are really close with the exception of boost? On torque there is the Boost/Vac gauge, I get a max  boost of 16psi of Forscan I get 14.5 as my max. that is quite a bit of difference. I am wondering which is correct. I know that from some of the guys on here they are seeing more than 15psi of boost. I have the 3 bar sensor. Any thoughts?
2012 Pearl White CTS-V Stock
2016 Fusion Titanium 2.0 EB Stock
2013 SHO Black on Black (Gone) PP, Unleashed Custom Tune, 170 TStat, SP534 Plugs, 3 Bar, Airaid Intake, PPE catted downpipes, Corsa Cat-back, H&R Springs. Focal 165KR Front Stage,2 JL W6 10 with Focal 800.1. 12.62 @ 110 mph.

ecoboostsho

Curious what elevation you are at?

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2013 White SHO w/PP, Gearhead Tuned, 3 Bar, 160T, Plugs...Mess with the Bull and you'll get the Horn. :)
Previous 2011 Tuxedo Black SHO w/PP - 12.89 1/4 Mile

ShoBoat

246ft above sea level.


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2012 Pearl White CTS-V Stock
2016 Fusion Titanium 2.0 EB Stock
2013 SHO Black on Black (Gone) PP, Unleashed Custom Tune, 170 TStat, SP534 Plugs, 3 Bar, Airaid Intake, PPE catted downpipes, Corsa Cat-back, H&R Springs. Focal 165KR Front Stage,2 JL W6 10 with Focal 800.1. 12.62 @ 110 mph.

ecoboostsho

Well never mind then. Thought maybe one of the readings was barometrically compensated...

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2013 White SHO w/PP, Gearhead Tuned, 3 Bar, 160T, Plugs...Mess with the Bull and you'll get the Horn. :)
Previous 2011 Tuxedo Black SHO w/PP - 12.89 1/4 Mile

millinnium

#95
Even though I don't have an ecoboost engine (2011 German built Ford Focus Titanium) in Australia, my search on the web for torque PID have led me here, and it is here that I have found the most help. So I would like to return in kind with a few PIDs that may help:

If anyone can get the equation or verify them, it will help the community tremendously.

steering wheel angle
223302
HEADER = ABS
FORMULA = "((signed(A)*256+b)/10-780"


lateral angle (g)
222b0c
HEADER = ABS
"SIGNED(A)"

BFLHP Brake fluid line hydraulic pressure 9kpa)
222b0d

Transmission Gear Engaged
221e1f
Tells you which gear is engaged (this jumps because we have dual clutch system i am guessing)

Gear command by Output state
221e12
GIVES GEAR RESULT 0,1,2,3,4,5,6

In Gear?
221e04
- 621e0400000000 = No

cataylst temp
22f43c
"((A*256)+B)-40"

fuel level
22f42f
(A/255*100)

torque control request
2203af
- 6203af0c = anti-theft

maX diff btw TP1 AND TP2
2203A7
6203A700 = 0 DEG

INLET AIR TEMP FAULT
220700
0800000 = NO FAULT

ENGINE TOTAL DIST (STARTUP?)
22DD01

LEARNED RELATIVE OCTANE ADJUST
2203E8
DCEC = 54.81%
"A/256*100"

CLUTCH A SLIP  (REV/MIN)
221EBB
"((A*256)+B)*(1/4)"

CLUTCH B SLIP
221EBC
"((A*256)+B)*(1/4)"

TRANS AXLE (GEAR RATIO) MEASURED
221E16
F143 = 15.079:1
((A*256)+B) / 4096

726 Header - for battery stuff
BATT AGE
224027
"((A*256)+B)"

BATT CHARGE
224028
"A"

BATT TEMP (c)
224029
"A-40"

IN CAR TEMP (BCM)
22DD04
HEADER = 726
FORMULA = "A/8"

OUTTEMP
22DD05

LATERAL G
222B11
HEADER = ABS
"((signed(A)*256)+B)*0.02"

LONGATUDE G
222B0C
HEADER = ABS
"((signed(A)*256)+B)*0.02"


CLUTCH A OPEN
221EA0
1 = YES
621EA000010001

ACC COMP STATE
22099B
0000= OFF

ACC PEDAL POSITION %
22032B
"A/256*100"

millinnium

A few more for reading speed on each wheel

ABS Wheel Speed 1   "ABS RFW"   "222b06"   "A"         "KM/H"   "ABS"
ABS Wheel Speed 2   "ABS LFW"   "222b07"   "A"         "KM/H"   "ABS"
ABS Wheel Speed 3   "ABS RRW"   "222b08"   "A"         "KM/H"   "ABS"
ABS Wheel Speed 4   "ABS LRW"   "222b09"   "A"         "KM/H"   "ABS"

ShoBoat

Wow that's quite the list! Thanks! There's a few in there I'd like to try.

On the Torque vs Forscan I'm going to remove my profile from Forscan and reset the history and give that a shot. I'm going to compare Map sensor readings only and see what that gets.


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2016 Fusion Titanium 2.0 EB Stock
2013 SHO Black on Black (Gone) PP, Unleashed Custom Tune, 170 TStat, SP534 Plugs, 3 Bar, Airaid Intake, PPE catted downpipes, Corsa Cat-back, H&R Springs. Focal 165KR Front Stage,2 JL W6 10 with Focal 800.1. 12.62 @ 110 mph.

FoMoCoSHO

Very interested in learned relative octane adjust......

Seems that could be a handy pid for e-85 testing.

I wonder what value it is calculating.....hmmm.

Larrylu

Only two remain from my original wish list....namely EGT and transmission gear indicator. Looks like one of those might be on this list- transmission gear engaged. Quite a list indeed!  Thank you!
2010 Loaded, Non PP, Steel Blue Metallic, Livernois Stage 4+, Blacked out grill, Nexus 7 Tablet running Torque Pro

ecoboostsho

Larry...when you say gear indicator do you mean 1,2,3...? Because you can infer the gear you are in easily with the gear ratio PID we found already.

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2013 White SHO w/PP, Gearhead Tuned, 3 Bar, 160T, Plugs...Mess with the Bull and you'll get the Horn. :)
Previous 2011 Tuxedo Black SHO w/PP - 12.89 1/4 Mile

ShoBoat

Quote from: Larrylu on June 15, 2014, 10:01:04 AM
Only two remain from my original wish list....namely EGT and transmission gear indicator. Looks like one of those might be on this list- transmission gear engaged. Quite a list indeed!  Thank you!

Ill See if I can pull the PID from Forscan.

Here are the PIDs for the TPMS

LF 228131
RF 228141
RR 228151
LR 228161

I get a response from the car but the equations are not working at all. Any help with this one would be great!

2012 Pearl White CTS-V Stock
2016 Fusion Titanium 2.0 EB Stock
2013 SHO Black on Black (Gone) PP, Unleashed Custom Tune, 170 TStat, SP534 Plugs, 3 Bar, Airaid Intake, PPE catted downpipes, Corsa Cat-back, H&R Springs. Focal 165KR Front Stage,2 JL W6 10 with Focal 800.1. 12.62 @ 110 mph.

ecoboostsho

If you just use the equation (256*A)+B what values do you get? What is the corresponding value in kpa? (Or psi)

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2013 White SHO w/PP, Gearhead Tuned, 3 Bar, 160T, Plugs...Mess with the Bull and you'll get the Horn. :)
Previous 2011 Tuxedo Black SHO w/PP - 12.89 1/4 Mile

ShoBoat

Quote from: ecoboostsho on June 15, 2014, 10:23:58 AM
If you just use the equation (256*A)+B what values do you get? What is the corresponding value in kpa? (Or psi)

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I will give that one a try.
2012 Pearl White CTS-V Stock
2016 Fusion Titanium 2.0 EB Stock
2013 SHO Black on Black (Gone) PP, Unleashed Custom Tune, 170 TStat, SP534 Plugs, 3 Bar, Airaid Intake, PPE catted downpipes, Corsa Cat-back, H&R Springs. Focal 165KR Front Stage,2 JL W6 10 with Focal 800.1. 12.62 @ 110 mph.

Larrylu


Quote from: ecoboostsho on June 15, 2014, 10:19:37 AM
Larry...when you say gear indicator do you mean 1,2,3...? Because you can infer the gear you are in easily with the gear ratio PID we found already.

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Yes but I'm thinking that the gear number must be available because it is displayed in the speedo cluster as "1,2,3...." when in manual. I'd like to display that in Torque while driving in "D". Reminds me of a Suzuki bike I had years ago which had a digital gear indicator for the six speed. I liked it!
2010 Loaded, Non PP, Steel Blue Metallic, Livernois Stage 4+, Blacked out grill, Nexus 7 Tablet running Torque Pro