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What Tune to Buy?

Started by jtoddk98, April 28, 2014, 04:30:11 PM

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RisskyBusiness

I personally have an LMS tune, and have nothing but good things to say about the experiences I've had with them. That being said, the main reason I went with LMS is because I bought a used MyCal touch. From what I understand both tunes are very similar and it mainly boils down to person choice. I for one am sick of the constant debates and some people's mentality on this site. I would say either buy from Unleashed, because it's close, or wait until LMS runs a sale, I doubt you'll be disappointed in either.
2017 Explorer Sport - Stock, for now...

SwampRat

#31
Quote from: Livernois Motorsports on April 29, 2014, 06:45:06 PM



That's too bad, we would have loved to have shown you why we are so adamant on our standing as to why we do things a certain way, and how dangerously incorrect the datalogging solutions people are using today are on these cars.

We have never been against datalogging, we are against data logging the wrong parameters, and this is what happens today on every logging system out there. At the end of the day it's great that there are multiple options, we just have a philosophical difference on how we develop and tune vehicles.

We spend the time here with our own cars, developing all of the tunes for every strategy code in house, and then sending them out. The difference is that someone can be sitting on their couch while we are doing the dirty work for them.


THIS is the kind of CRAP that infuriates me about LMS .
Who exactly is writing this garbage , is it Anthony ?

A TRULY superior product or service will stand on its own merits and a true salesman wins customers based on the above .

It is HIGHLY unprofessional to use scaremongering tactics that LMS so frequently uses to try to demonize the competetion .

A true salesman NEVER speaks negatively about the competition but instead will emphasize what makes there product more beneficial or a superior option for the customer .

This is piss poor sales tactics to say the least .

LMS , where is your proof that data logging is dangerous and if according to you the devices are using the wrong parameters ; then what are the right ones ?

You at LMS may have a few more vehicles than Torrie at Unleashed does but I guess that you discount the fact that he does own a Taurus SHO , a Foucus ST and a Dodge Viper ..... all of which are tuned by him .

Its funny that I've never seen a post were he disses any competitor in any way ....
2013 SHO  ....  not mine anymore

2021 Edge ST

68_GT

#32
Quote from: Wilson on April 28, 2014, 09:23:05 PM
Quote from: crash712us on April 28, 2014, 08:19:51 PM
Talk is cheap. If I where you I'd be asking who has the fastest E.T.'s and who's tune they are using.

Agreed. And then my next question would be how many of those fastest E.T.'s live close enough to LMS to have been dyno tuned and not just use the canned tune you get via email.

what all is done to your SHO ?

we need to meet at the track mine is a LMS tune only and settle this debate ha ha :)

oh wait you don't have the performance package......lol

When I got my LMS tune I didn't know about Unleashed. That being said I have had exellent customer service and a good experience with LMS tunes especially their latest tune revision for my '13. However for the price and closeness to Unleashed I'd go there and get a dyno tune. I mean that is truly the best way to go in my opinion. Some will debate datalogging I guess but dyno tunes have always done me perfect, and I guess if you have the time / desire to datalog then you could. Enjoy.

by the way did I mention I got a 4 wheel drift in my SHO yesterday on dry pavement from a complete stop with new 255 tires on :) stomped it turning right woo - hoo !
2013 PP SHO LMS 93V10 tune, 170* T stat, 3bar, K&N drop in, plugs re-gapped, 4in exhaust tips.
UPDATE - 130K miles =blown engine. Unleashed tune and EBPP upgrade turbo billet wheels / Turbo Smart WGA's on a bran new long block. Let's get this SHO on the road !

2013 Fusion Titanium 2.0 EB daily driver ;) - LMS 93 tune and CPE intercooler

RisskyBusiness

Quote from: SwampRat on April 30, 2014, 02:18:22 AM

THIS is the kind of CRAP that infuriates me about LMS .
Who exactly is writing this garbage , is it Anthony ?

A TRULY superior product or service will stand on its own merits and a true salesman wins customers based on the above .

It is HIGHLY unprofessional to use scaremongering tactics that LMS so frequently uses to try to demonize the competetion .

A true salesman NEVER speaks negatively about the competition but instead will emphasize what makes there product more beneficial or a superior option for the customer .

This is piss poor sales tactics to say the least .

LMS , where is your proof that data logging is dangerous and if according to you the devices are using the wrong parameters ; then what are the right ones ?

You at LMS may have a few more vehicles than Torrie at Unleashed does but I guess that you discount the fact that he does own a Taurus SHO , a Foucus ST and a Dodge Viper ..... all of which are tuned by him .

Its funny that I've never seen a post were he disses any competitor in any way ....

THIS is the kind of CRAP that infuriates me about this forum... One company is not better than another because you say it is. I remember when this was a forum that you could get useful information from fellow members who all had something in common. Now it's a sales platform and a flame war between LMS and Unleashed. I said in previous post the OP would be happy with either tune. Everything I've read say people who have unleashed tunes love them, and people with LMS tunes love them. I'm sure even if I would have opted for an unleashed tune my position wouldn't change on this. I for one am done with this forum.
2017 Explorer Sport - Stock, for now...

SwampRat

riskybusiness. ..... YOU are missing the point entirely .......

I have NEVER said that based on the PRODUCT that LMS or Unleashed has  , that one is better than the other .

My PROBLEM with LMS is the Way THEY consistently badmouth the competition and or anyone that disagrees with there approach .

What is so difficult in being able to comprehend this ?

Completely unprofessional on LMS' s side and my primary reason for not doing business with then .
2013 SHO  ....  not mine anymore

2021 Edge ST

Wilson

#35
Quote from: 68_GT on April 30, 2014, 09:34:09 AM
Quote from: Wilson on April 28, 2014, 09:23:05 PM
Quote from: crash712us on April 28, 2014, 08:19:51 PM
Talk is cheap. If I where you I'd be asking who has the fastest E.T.'s and who's tune they are using.

Agreed. And then my next question would be how many of those fastest E.T.'s live close enough to LMS to have been dyno tuned and not just use the canned tune you get via email.

what all is done to your SHO ?

we need to meet at the track mine is a LMS tune only and settle this debate ha ha :)

oh wait you don't have the performance package......lol

When I got my LMS tune I didn't know about Unleashed. That being said I have had exellent customer service and a good experience with LMS tunes especially their latest tune revision for my '13. However for the price and closeness to Unleashed I'd go there and get a dyno tune. I mean that is truly the best way to go in my opinion. Some will debate datalogging I guess but dyno tunes have always done me perfect, and I guess if you have the time / desire to datalog then you could. Enjoy.

by the way did I mention I got a 4 wheel drift in my SHO yesterday on dry pavement from a complete stop with new 255 tires on :) stomped it turning right woo - hoo !


Funny you say that, I'll be at Lonestar Friday night. For some reason I thought you had down pipes as well. Either way lets line it up and settle this sh!t, LOL. I'm sure the forum will thank us! :D


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crash712us

What dis SR? Show me where they dis the unleashed. I know I can show where this has been done them long before LMS interjected any opinion.


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SRT82ECOBOOST

I hope these tune comparison threads never go away.

LMS is the best ever!!!!!
2013 SHO PP in White Platinum Metallic Tricoat, PPE Downpipes, Livernois Stage V8/3 Bar, Custom 2.5" Catback, 170 T-stat, Airaid CAI, H+R Springs and debadged
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SRT82ECOBOOST

Swamprat,
     I have seen that you are bailing on this forum anyway, so why go out in flames. It is time to jump over to your new forum:
http://infinitiforum.net/infiniti-forum/forumdisplay.php?f=41
     Still looking for that first post on the Q70 and it could be you.
2013 SHO PP in White Platinum Metallic Tricoat, PPE Downpipes, Livernois Stage V8/3 Bar, Custom 2.5" Catback, 170 T-stat, Airaid CAI, H+R Springs and debadged
Boston Acoustics 2.1 Audio Upgrade

SwampRat

Quote from: crash712us on April 30, 2014, 11:24:29 AM
What dis SR? Show me where they dis the unleashed. I know I can show where this has been done them long before LMS interjected any opinion.


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Quote from: Livernois Motorsports on April 29, 2014, 06:45:06 PM


That's too bad, we would have loved to have shown you why we are so adamant on our standing as to why we do things a certain way, and how dangerously incorrect the datalogging solutions people are using today are on these cars.

We have never been against datalogging, we are against data logging the wrong parameters, and this is what happens today on every logging system out there. At the end of the day it's great that there are multiple options, we just have a philosophical difference on how we develop and tune vehicles.

We spend the time here with our own cars, developing all of the tunes for every strategy code in house, and then sending them out. This ensures the highest level of quality control out there and makes certain there is no need for logging. Does this mean that there aren't updates? Of course not, even FoMoCo releases numerous updates for car's and their calibrations just as we do, the difference is that someone can be sitting on their couch while we are doing the dirty work for them.


1 ....  dangerously incorrect data logging solutions .

2 ....    data logging the wrong  parameters .

3......  the difference is that someone can be sitting on there couch while we are doing the dirty work .

Very much a diss towards unleashed as there are only 2 players here in this  field .
2013 SHO  ....  not mine anymore

2021 Edge ST

BiGMaC

I would respectfully request administration to lock, or perhaps better, delete this thread.... PM sent

...now that this thread has completely departed from the OP's original question about tuning, degenerated into personal attacks on members and vendors, discussion of marketing techniques, discussion of who's car is faster, ...........
and also since there are now 2 (TWO) threads started requesting facts only with the stated purpose of referring members for facts (which I hope will be closely watched for anything else, especially the one in the vendor area,... and that anything else be deleted there as well.)

This is not how any of us want this forum seen.

Thanks for considering

•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

SwampRat

BigMac ... I have not attacked any members... if anything it is LMS attacking other Vendors or people that disaree with there approach .

Why is it so difficult for people to see this .... it is distastefuly blatant .
2013 SHO  ....  not mine anymore

2021 Edge ST

Admin

I thought one of the mods was going to lock it earlier.
That being said the work on the data thread is still being done and will be used for people to be able to refer to as a comparison.
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