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wondering y are engine's arent given us numbers like other twin 6's

Started by explorergotoluvit, March 09, 2014, 11:50:16 PM

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yowen

Very interesting, would love to see some tuned SHO's and XTS's go head to head at the track.
2010 Taurus SHO, Tuxedo Black
Awaiting Installation: Catless Downpipes, LMS Tune, 3Bar Map Sensor

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SHOdded

I bet you could get quite a wee bit of modding done to the SHO or an MKS with the extra 30K you cough up for the XTS-VSport.
PRICE AS TESTED: $71,015 (base price: $63,020)

Livernois-souped up XTS-Vsp http://www.gmhightechperformance.com/hotnews/1402_livernois_2014_cadillac_xts_vsport_on_the_dyno_video/

Dyno here:
http://www.gmhightechperformance.com/hotnews/1402_livernois_2014_cadillac_xts_vsport_on_the_dyno_video/photo_01.html#
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If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

yowen

Crikey!  I could pick up 3 2010 model SHO's for that... Or an X sport and a SHO. The list goes on of the possible vehicles one could get.
2010 Taurus SHO, Tuxedo Black
Awaiting Installation: Catless Downpipes, LMS Tune, 3Bar Map Sensor

TSS

Just so we are clear, I am talking about the XTS V-Sport (I need AWD), not the CTS V-Sport - I have not driven one of those - I would imagine the CTS V-Sport Mike drove (like the black one pictured above) WOULD impress me.  The XTS-V just didn't - and trust me, I wanted it to.    I love my Cadillac dealer.

Now, if the CTS V-Sport is offered with AWD, that might interest me.  The 2014 + CTS is eye candy.
2010 Steel Blue Metallic MKS Ecoboost: LME 3-Bar Tuned; tint; 20" Factory rims Permachromed

2017 Summit White Buick Envision Premium AWD 2.0 Turbo
2017 Silver Cadillac XTS V-Sport Platinum  3.6 Twin Turbo; LME tuned.

BiGMaC

Quote from: yowen on March 10, 2014, 02:07:26 PM
Crikey!  I could pick up 3 2010 model SHO's for that... Or an X sport and a SHO. The list goes on of the possible vehicles one could get.
Quote from: 4DRHTRD on March 10, 2014, 01:57:58 PM
I'd rather have the V-sport but it's $60K list
2014 Cadillac CTS Vsport vs 2013 Lexus GS350 F Sport! - Head 2 Head Ep. 45
Quote from: SHOdded on March 10, 2014, 02:04:03 PM
I bet you could get quite a wee bit of modding done to the SHO or an MKS with the extra 30K you cough up for the XTS-VSport.
PRICE AS TESTED: $71,015 (base price: $63,020)

Livernois-souped up XTS-Vsp http://www.gmhightechperformance.com/hotnews/1402_livernois_2014_cadillac_xts_vsport_on_the_dyno_video/

Dyno here:
http://www.gmhightechperformance.com/hotnews/1402_livernois_2014_cadillac_xts_vsport_on_the_dyno_video/photo_01.html#

The extra cost of the new caddies was the deciding factor for me personally between the SHO and them when I was shopping new.... I could almost have 2 new 2013 SHOs for the money.

•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

MeanKS

the SHO/MKS is about the same or a tick quicker to 60 than the XTS-V, but traps slower in the 1/4 mile.

The XTS Vsport's 5.3-second 0-60 mph time compares favorably to the front-drive 2014 RLX (5.9 seconds) and pre-refresh 2012 Equus (5.5 seconds), but is slightly behind the MKS EcoBoost (5.2 seconds)

Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedans/1312_2014_cadillac_xts_vsport_first_test/#ixzz2vaRWagy0


the MKS-EB handles better and is a tad quicker thru the cones than a XTS-V, with a much better ride!  the XTS-V with 20 in wheels has quite a stiff ride.

The XTS Vsport's figure-eight performance of 26.3 seconds at 0.65 g (avg) compares favorably to the all-wheel-drive 2013 XTS V-6's 27.6 seconds at 0.63 (avg). The MKS EcoBoost just barely has the XTS Vsport beat around the figure-eight course, however, with a 26.1-second time at 0.69 g (avg).

Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedans/1312_2014_cadillac_xts_vsport_first_test/#ixzz2vaRn6X8S


so i'm not quite understanding what the OP is getting at...
MKS-EB...

SRT82ECOBOOST

Quote from: TSS on March 10, 2014, 02:39:11 PM
Just so we are clear, I am talking about the XTS V-Sport (I need AWD), not the CTS V-Sport - I have not driven one of those - I would imagine the CTS V-Sport Mike drove (like the black one pictured above) WOULD impress me.  The XTS-V just didn't - and trust me, I wanted it to.    I love my Cadillac dealer.

Now, if the CTS V-Sport is offered with AWD, that might interest me.  The 2014 + CTS is eye candy.
The CTS V-sport is only offered in RWD.
2013 SHO PP in White Platinum Metallic Tricoat, PPE Downpipes, Livernois Stage V8/3 Bar, Custom 2.5" Catback, 170 T-stat, Airaid CAI, H+R Springs and debadged
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mval

My friend who does my work just got a '11 CTS-V like Mike's except 4dr. I love my SHO & everybody's on the sight but when he hits the supercharger I hold on for dear life. Smoke the tires multiple gears,  it's crazy fast. Cost him about what a new SHO would cost. GM has one advantage Ford doesn't, if it's got the room just drop a Corvette engine & you got a runner. a friend up the street has a new XTS non turboed from the back you'd swear it's a Lincoln.
mikev
'10 lme 4+93, 160t, 3 bar, w/cust headrest & evo gauge pod,md design cai, ppe dpes, borla cback , vertini 20" cust wheels w/conti dws, ebc slotted rotors w/red pads & mgp caliper covers, viper remote start, cust dipped eng cover,fascia, cai & lids,decals, custom bra, black wrapped spoiler
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TSS

Quote from: SRT82ECOBOOST on March 10, 2014, 03:04:47 PM
Quote from: TSS on March 10, 2014, 02:39:11 PM
Just so we are clear, I am talking about the XTS V-Sport (I need AWD), not the CTS V-Sport - I have not driven one of those - I would imagine the CTS V-Sport Mike drove (like the black one pictured above) WOULD impress me.  The XTS-V just didn't - and trust me, I wanted it to.    I love my Cadillac dealer.

Now, if the CTS V-Sport is offered with AWD, that might interest me.  The 2014 + CTS is eye candy.
The CTS V-sport is only offered in AWD.

No.  The XTS V Sport is only AWD. CTS V Sport is RWD only and hits 60 in 4.4 out of the box. 
2010 Steel Blue Metallic MKS Ecoboost: LME 3-Bar Tuned; tint; 20" Factory rims Permachromed

2017 Summit White Buick Envision Premium AWD 2.0 Turbo
2017 Silver Cadillac XTS V-Sport Platinum  3.6 Twin Turbo; LME tuned.

CroR1

Seen two guys in a CTS v run 11.8 with a tune, long tubes, and exhaust. Not bad.

TSS

2010 Steel Blue Metallic MKS Ecoboost: LME 3-Bar Tuned; tint; 20" Factory rims Permachromed

2017 Summit White Buick Envision Premium AWD 2.0 Turbo
2017 Silver Cadillac XTS V-Sport Platinum  3.6 Twin Turbo; LME tuned.

krdiesel

I think the limiting factor will be the tranny.  larger injectors and fuel pump will come, But a few of the tranny companies have already stated that there is not much potential because of the PTO. 

BiGMaC

Quote from: krdiesel on March 13, 2014, 01:56:31 PM
I think the limiting factor will be the tranny.  larger injectors and fuel pump will come, But a few of the tranny companies have already stated that there is not much potential because of the PTO. 

Sorry, I'm lost.... potential for what in which vehicle?  TIA

•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

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Quote from: mval on March 10, 2014, 03:06:08 PM
My friend who does my work just got a '11 CTS-V like Mike's except 4dr. I love my SHO & everybody's on the sight but when he hits the supercharger I hold on for dear life. Smoke the tires multiple gears,  it's crazy fast. Cost him about what a new SHO would cost. GM has one advantage Ford doesn't, if it's got the room just drop a Corvette engine & you got a runner. a friend up the street has a new XTS non turboed from the back you'd swear it's a Lincoln.
mikev
I just added a lower pulley and exhaust, should add another 50HP.
My last pass in the V was 11.5@124.9 hitting rev limiter in 2nd and 3rd - solid 10 second pass according to other's passes, that was at 600HP, I should be at 670+ HP within 48 hours. Looking for mid 10's@130.
Luckily mods were on the car already except for the lower pulley, injectors, used Billy Boat exhaust and BAP I installed.
I should be happy there but I also have my nitrous system just laying around....
:D

I've given other V owners rides with 500HP V's and they thought it was crazy fast in comparison. My friends describe it as a jet airplane acceleration. It puts you in your seat hard like taking off in a jet, I've pulled to 140 and it never stops accelerating like that.
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