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DP'S rite now

Started by Mikesb, February 08, 2014, 12:01:50 PM

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QuickSilver

@ Shodded, I should probably install and test them before I even *think* of making another set. I'll do that tomorrow after work 8)
AJ

2014 Ingot Silver Explorer Sport- LMS V3 Tune, AirRaid CAI, Hi_flow Catted DP's to Complete dual 2.5" exhaust, 19"X 9.5"TSW Panorama Rotary Forged/powdercoated Rims, Cree LED Foglights, Hoping for those Megan coilovers to be developed...

Mikesb

What about putting a thermal blanket on them? Oem has them
2013 SHO PP BLACK 7k mi - 12.9 @107  LMS 91 v8 METH TUNE - ALKY CONTROLS METH - 3-BAR - AIRAID - PPE DP'S w/cats - CORSA CB - PLUGS - T-STAT - UPGRADE AUDIO
PORTLAND OREGON

BiGMaC

#17
Quote from: Mikesb on February 11, 2014, 07:47:04 AM
What about putting a thermal blanket on them? Oem has them

Keep SHOded's comment in mind for all components, especially in the northern climates. Even if it's just the bolts rust is a nuisance! Not a fun place to be drilling and tapping!
While the thermal coating is different, and common sense tells us that it should reduce underhood temps and increase performance, I may have dynos and temp measurements to share later this week (possibly tomorrow night) comparing this with OEM.  It should at least give you a real world example of what you might expect so that you can evaluate bang for the buck (WHP and torque anyway... really don't want a "bang" LOL).

•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

SHOdded

Which brings to mind another thought.  If the OEM fasteners are not stainless steel, might be worth it to source equivalent SS fasteners to secure the future.  Really handy in the Gen 1/2 SHO exhaust systems!
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

QuickSilver

The heat 'shield' that Ford uses wont really trap much appreciable moisture IMO, the thermal 'wraps' on the other hand do. My bro wrapped his entire header on his early 2000's Yamaha YZF 1000. Not sure how or exactly why(scavenging, velocity, heat control?) but it actually made his bike faster. We had made dozens of side by side pulls against my Honda before and after and he was now 2-3 bikes further ahead by 120MPH in the exact same pulls so even other than controlling underhood/undercar temps, its an actual power making mod on a naturally aspirated motor. Thermal coatings BEFORE the turbo (exhaust manifolds) on a turbocharged application will also make more power and spool the turbo sooner by delivering more heat energy to the tubine side of the turbo.  There are some steering/suspension components that run near the rear DP and the front cat is fitted in there pretty tight so  I think heat shields are a good idea in those spots.  BTW, the exhaust headers on my Bro's Yamaha rusted thru a bunch of pinholes within 2 years and he had to replace the entire exhaust.  He still has that bike and I miss my CBR 900RR :icon_cry:
AJ

2014 Ingot Silver Explorer Sport- LMS V3 Tune, AirRaid CAI, Hi_flow Catted DP's to Complete dual 2.5" exhaust, 19"X 9.5"TSW Panorama Rotary Forged/powdercoated Rims, Cree LED Foglights, Hoping for those Megan coilovers to be developed...

BiGMaC

Quote from: SHOdded on February 11, 2014, 11:50:04 AM
Which brings to mind another thought.  If the OEM fasteners are not stainless steel, might be worth it to source equivalent SS fasteners to secure the future.  Really handy in the Gen 1/2 SHO exhaust systems!

Great idea!.. then only natural electrolysis to deal with!

•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

BiGMaC

#21
Quote from: QuickSilver on February 11, 2014, 11:59:16 AM
The heat 'shield' that Ford uses won't really trap much appreciable moisture IMO, the thermal 'wraps' on the other hand do. My bro wrapped his entire header on his early 2000's Yamaha YZF 1000. ...it actually made his bike faster. Thermal coatings BEFORE the turbo (exhaust manifolds) on a turbocharged application will also make more power and spool the turbo sooner by delivering more heat energy to the tubine side of the turbo.  BTW, the exhaust headers on my Bro's Yamaha rusted thru a bunch of pinholes within 2 years and he had to replace the entire exhaust.  :icon_cry:

Right on!  Why my hotpipes air thermal coated too... and why I want a CAI drawing from external air source (not under hood). Likely I'll get the CAI tubes/box thermal coated after development and think a closed box to hold high flow filters may be better and prevent reliance on a rubber seal against the hood.   The increased pressure from the turbo boost will elevate intake air temps a little in the hot just due to compression (more with increased boost) and engine heat/friction, but I want to control heat saturation as much as possible without making it look like a NASA satellite covered with foil in prep.

•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

dalum

Quote from: SRT82ECOBOOST on February 10, 2014, 01:44:58 PM
I just wish people would stop referring to their downpipes at "DP's", if you know what I am saying....

I'm the same way with the bean bag game "corn hole"!  Someone asked me if I wanted to play corn hole.  My response? HELL NO!  :suicide:
2013 Non-PP SHO

QuickSilver

Quote from: dalum on February 21, 2014, 11:31:50 PM
Quote from: SRT82ECOBOOST on February 10, 2014, 01:44:58 PM
I just wish people would stop referring to their downpipes at "DP's", if you know what I am saying....

I'm the same way with the bean bag game "corn hole"!  Someone asked me if I wanted to play corn hole.  My response? HELL NO!  :suicide:

I love corn!  Especially roasted on the cobb. Sounds like a fun game...  Wait, it means what??? Uh, pas.s
AJ

2014 Ingot Silver Explorer Sport- LMS V3 Tune, AirRaid CAI, Hi_flow Catted DP's to Complete dual 2.5" exhaust, 19"X 9.5"TSW Panorama Rotary Forged/powdercoated Rims, Cree LED Foglights, Hoping for those Megan coilovers to be developed...