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Any racing techniques for the track?

Started by southtxSHO, March 18, 2014, 01:42:49 AM

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southtxSHO

What's up guys , it's the newbie again. Lol just wanted to get some racing tips for the SHO. Planning on going to the track this Friday . Want to get some base times before I start modding away. What RPM do you guys launch from ? Do I mess with tire pressure ? On my fwd Impala SS it was very tricky , always had trouble hooking even with DRs. Lol

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2011 SHO non PP
LMS 4 +tune
LMS Cai
LMS catted downpipes
12.89@ 105 MPH best time @ Edinburg Raceway

DJE624

I have only been out for about 30 runs but this is my plan for Spring.  Take everything out of the car including the spare tire.  Remove engine cover if on.  Lower tire pressure to 30 psi.  Then, at the line, stage as shallow as you can, just turning the second yellow staging light on.  Brake torque to about 1800 RPMs.  Don't worry too much about reaction but about getting a good firm launch.  This will be my method for getting a time.  If you are racing, stage deep (about 6-8" deeper) then launch on the last yellow.

crash712us

Good advice here from DJE, if you can get your 60' in the 1.8's your off to a good start.


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shoman04

I 2nd all the above!! Good hunting!!!!!! Post vid's
2011 KONA BLU SHO,Livernois Tune,AIRAID CAI,DYNOMAX MUFFLEs,Newest member of the 12sec CLUB 12.669sec @ 107mph    2011 Ford Taurus SHO: 12.669 @ 105.050 MPH NEW FOR 2013LMS down-pipe,Magnaflow X-pipe,and Custom 2.5"exhaust pipe!! Meth and stage 5 next to be install!!!!!! METH DYNO TUNE today 405AWHP!!!WOW LMS track day 12.4209sec   :mike1:

black99lightning

2013 Esport 13.44 @ 103.6
1999 Lightning 12.44 @ 108.4
2012 GT500 10.96 @ 130.6
2006 GTO 12.83 @ 107.8
2013 CTSV coupe 11.79 @ 119.7

steve142857

Hi!
I already posted a thread on how to optimize drag racing in hte drag racing section.
Here is the copy-paste of my thread. I don't think much needs to be added. I raced the two SHOs for a total of more than 500 times and ran bests of 12.09 and 12.08! lol Good luck!:

Hey there,
Since I have been many many times at the drag with both my 2010 and now a few times with my 2013, I figured I could share a bit of info based on my experience.
I have been asked a few times in private messages for tricks to improve drag results, so here are the factors that I can think of that will influence at a different level your time and speed when running the quarter mile.

1) Low D/A

2) Tailwind

3) Good 60':
a) warm tires (doing zig zag in the parking for 30 seconds without heating the engine, just doing donuts right and left at 10mph and then go directly to the lane (easier to do when there isn't too many people).
b) track well prepped (-don't go through the water box- look that there is glue on track- try to go in the lane where many cars just passed, that lane will be warmer)
c) Although I never played with this because my Hankooks are thebest out there to grip, you may want to play a bit with tire pressure.
d) Launch between 1800 and 2200... Sometimes launching too hard will cause tires to slip in the first gear change 1 to 2.
e) Spool turbos before green light... Once stage, ideally start brake/boosting keeping engine running at around 2000rpm for at least 3-5 seconds.

4) Lower the weight:
a) quarter tank of gas max (you may want to bring a separate fuel tank to leave on the side to fuel the car up after you finish) = -35lbs compared to half full.
b) remove spare and tools = -40 lbs
c) empty car from everything (glove compartment, floor mats, head rests, change, even wear light clothes if possible, lower windshield washer) = -5lbs

5) Keep engine cool: ideally with a fan plugged on the car battery. That cools the engine 10-20 times faster than even ice on the intake. Try to avoid big lineups before running... I often go on the side and try to jump in the line against a loner instead of making 30 minute lineups... You can also remove engine cover and the little round cylinder thing in «mousse» that covers metal parts under the engine cover. Leave them outside of the car to reduce weight while at it...

6) Shallow stage

7) Keep a straight line from beginning to the end... Imagine someone that would move his car 2 times one foot left-right during the run... That means one foot right, one foot left to bring it back x 2 = 4 feet = 4/1320 = 0.3%. 0.3% of 13 seconds are 0.04 seconds just there!

8) TC off, D or Sport (for 2013 doesn't change a thing in my experience)... Close all things in the car (air, radio, ...)

The best scenario for best results is to go earlier in the day on a sunny day when temps are cool. You drive there, pay, and go directly at the lane and run 2-3 runs... The tires are normally warmed up from the drive to get there, but the engine is not warmed yet because it was ventilated while driving...

Please feel free to add other tricks or to comment on any of those... I just wrote everything that came through my mind. Sometimes, 0.01 second can make a difference for someone to achieve his goal, so the combo of all of the above is the way I did it to obtain the best of my machine... My car is not necessarely faster than others, but I just optimize my scenario...

Every 10F or 5C is about 0.10 second and 1mph trap speed
Every 100 lbs or 50kg is about 0.10 second and 1mph trap speed
Every 10mph tailwind is about 0.10 second and 1mph trap speed
Every 1000 ft of altitude is about 0.10 second and 1mph trap speed too.

So, imagine when I go to the drag strip with less than a quarter tank of fuel, emptied the car, go when it is 40F with a 10mph tailwind at 203ft. of altitude and run a 12.1 seconds at 115mph.
Another guy would go in Colorado at 5000 ft altitude when it is 80F with no tailwind and with a half tank of fuel =
0.5 sec for altitude, 0.4 sec for temps 0.1 sec for wind and .03 for fuel, so that is about one full second difference just because not running the good day at the good place and not emptying the car properly. If someone wants to achieve best results, that implies to drive a bit to find a good drag strip, low altitude and well prepped. Watch weather conditions to go on a cool day when tailwind...
There you go guys!
Good luck!
Steve
2010 blue wrapped SHO 12.09 at 117.9mph - SOLD
2013 SHO PP 12.08 at 113.83mph...
Alky control, LMS tuned, custom exhaust, LMS catted downpipes, H&R springs, Tstat170, 3bar map, Airaid

southtxSHO

Thanks for the tips guys . I thought I had searched all the threads but I guess not lol.

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12.89@ 105 MPH best time @ Edinburg Raceway

shoman04

THANKS STEVE "JEDI MASTER of SPEED" Best teacher I have at this "NEED FOR SPEED"!!!!!!!
2011 KONA BLU SHO,Livernois Tune,AIRAID CAI,DYNOMAX MUFFLEs,Newest member of the 12sec CLUB 12.669sec @ 107mph    2011 Ford Taurus SHO: 12.669 @ 105.050 MPH NEW FOR 2013LMS down-pipe,Magnaflow X-pipe,and Custom 2.5"exhaust pipe!! Meth and stage 5 next to be install!!!!!! METH DYNO TUNE today 405AWHP!!!WOW LMS track day 12.4209sec   :mike1:

southtxSHO

Well, since tomorrow will be a bit cooler than Friday I will be going tomorrow to the track. I will post vids and pics. thanks
2011 SHO non PP
LMS 4 +tune
LMS Cai
LMS catted downpipes
12.89@ 105 MPH best time @ Edinburg Raceway


QuickSilver

Will you have room for a cooler large enough to hold 3-4 7lb bags of ice?  You'd may be surprised but a cold intake manifold has been worth 2 tenths on other platforms for me. If you could reach the IC with ice, that would be a good bet too, judging by how deep my ESport IC is buried, that aint happening on the SHO either. Turbo Honda guys will often have their crew membners spray a 20 second szhot of Nitrous right thru the IC to get it icy.  Another thing I would add is to write down right on your timeslip details,every detail.  What you did on the stage, deep? shallow? Tier pressure? Did it spin? Did it wheel hop excessively? What temp was it outside? What did you powerbrake it to?  etc etc etc.  The more you add to your 'chronical' the more useful the info is for next time.  Do it AS SOON AS YOU GET YOUR SLIP AND STOP IN THE PITS! Otherwise the little nuance details will either be lost to celebrating :bigthanx: or into your crying towel :cry1:, depending on how the run went :))
AJ

2014 Ingot Silver Explorer Sport- LMS V3 Tune, AirRaid CAI, Hi_flow Catted DP's to Complete dual 2.5" exhaust, 19"X 9.5"TSW Panorama Rotary Forged/powdercoated Rims, Cree LED Foglights, Hoping for those Megan coilovers to be developed...

BiGMaC

Quote from: QuickSilver on March 19, 2014, 05:21:50 PM
Will you have room for a cooler large enough to hold 3-4 7lb bags of ice?  You'd may be surprised but a cold intake manifold has been worth 2 tenths on other platforms for me. If you could reach the IC with ice, that would be a good bet too, judging by how deep my ESport IC is buried, that aint happening on the SHO either. Turbo Honda guys will often have their crew membners spray a 20 second szhot of Nitrous right thru the IC to get it icy.  Another thing I would add is to write down right on your timeslip details,every detail.  What you did on the stage, deep? shallow? Tier pressure? Did it spin? Did it wheel hop excessively? What temp was it outside? What did you powerbrake it to?  etc etc etc.  The more you add to your 'chronical' the more useful the info is for next time.  Do it AS SOON AS YOU GET YOUR SLIP AND STOP IN THE PITS! Otherwise the little nuance details will either be lost to celebrating :bigthanx: or into your crying towel :cry1:, depending on how the run went :))

Great advice! especially the "Right Now" records keeping.  :thumb:
Yea, the IC in the SHO is buried behind the bumper with dedicated entry for each turbo on the left lower side (that can only be seen from beneath the car with the bottom cover dropped) and runs across the the car hidden in the lower fascia to the lower right corner where a connection sticks out leading to the IC->manifold pipe (the one with the TIP sensor entering the throttle-body).  There is little to no room... If your gonna try icing I'd recommend the manifold.

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southtxSHO

Thanks for the extra advice , will definitely do when I go back after my tune

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2011 SHO non PP
LMS 4 +tune
LMS Cai
LMS catted downpipes
12.89@ 105 MPH best time @ Edinburg Raceway

steve142857

Quote from: BiGMaC on March 19, 2014, 05:38:50 PM
Quote from: QuickSilver on March 19, 2014, 05:21:50 PM
Will you have room for a cooler large enough to hold 3-4 7lb bags of ice?  You'd may be surprised but a cold intake manifold has been worth 2 tenths on other platforms for me. If you could reach the IC with ice, that would be a good bet too, judging by how deep my ESport IC is buried, that aint happening on the SHO either. Turbo Honda guys will often have their crew membners spray a 20 second szhot of Nitrous right thru the IC to get it icy.  Another thing I would add is to write down right on your timeslip details,every detail.  What you did on the stage, deep? shallow? Tier pressure? Did it spin? Did it wheel hop excessively? What temp was it outside? What did you powerbrake it to?  etc etc etc.  The more you add to your 'chronical' the more useful the info is for next time.  Do it AS SOON AS YOU GET YOUR SLIP AND STOP IN THE PITS! Otherwise the little nuance details will either be lost to celebrating :bigthanx: or into your crying towel :cry1:, depending on how the run went :))

Great advice! especially the "Right Now" records keeping.  :thumb:
Yea, the IC in the SHO is buried behind the bumper with dedicated entry for each turbo on the left lower side (that can only be seen from beneath the car with the bottom cover dropped) and runs across the the car hidden in the lower fascia to the lower right corner where a connection sticks out leading to the IC->manifold pipe (the one with the TIP sensor entering the throttle-body).  There is little to no room... If your gonna try icing I'd recommend the manifold.

I was icing the maifold, but even with a big bag of ice on top of it, after 30 minutes, it is still very hot. The best way and fastest way is to put a fan over it and you can even reach the IC with cool air. That method is 10X faster. 10-15 minutes of fan will bring the car to a very cool temperature.
I borrowed one a few times and it is so much better, that I purchased one myself, so I'll be independant this summer ; )
2010 blue wrapped SHO 12.09 at 117.9mph - SOLD
2013 SHO PP 12.08 at 113.83mph...
Alky control, LMS tuned, custom exhaust, LMS catted downpipes, H&R springs, Tstat170, 3bar map, Airaid