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Downpipes Catless / Offroad --- PPE or Stainless Works

Started by SwampRat, February 18, 2014, 10:15:10 PM

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SwampRat

I was getting ready to order PPE catless Downpipes  but Noticed that Stage 3 Motor Sports has Stainless Works catless for quite a bit less .. I would like to keep things in house that are available on the forum BUT ... $576.00  with free shipping .

Any differences with material or craftsmanship ?

http://www.stage3motorsports.com/TA10ECODP-2010-2013-Taurus-SHO-3-5L-EcoBoost-Stainless-Works-Downpipes.html
2013 SHO  ....  not mine anymore

2021 Edge ST

BiGMaC

Quote from: SwampRat on February 18, 2014, 10:15:10 PM
I was getting ready to order PPE catless Downpipes  but Noticed that Stage 3 Motor Sports has Stainless Works catless for quite a bit less .. I would like to keep things in house that are available on the forum BUT ... $576.00  with free shipping .

Any differences with material or craftsmanship ?

http://www.stage3motorsports.com/TA10ECODP-2010-2013-Taurus-SHO-3-5L-EcoBoost-Stainless-Works-Downpipes.html


bigger pipes/flow.
Workmanship seems otherwise similar except mandrel bends are fewer in PPE and the flex tube (resistance big time) is about 1/2 the length on the PPE.
These throw a code (PPE catted don't) and these only rated 2 of 5 stars by their customers... see the page..
The rest is inconsequential as there is no drone with PPE, et.c... still you decide.
What I know after watching them fit by the fabricator  (Paul)

•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

SwampRat

#2
Quote from: BiGMaC on February 18, 2014, 10:27:25 PM
Quote from: SwampRat on February 18, 2014, 10:15:10 PM
I was getting ready to order PPE catless Downpipes  but Noticed that Stage 3 Motor Sports has Stainless Works catless for quite a bit less .. I would like to keep things in house that are available on the forum BUT ... $576.00  with free shipping .

Any differences with material or craftsmanship ?

http://www.stage3motorsports.com/TA10ECODP-2010-2013-Taurus-SHO-3-5L-EcoBoost-Stainless-Works-Downpipes.html


2.5" diameter vs PPE @ 3.5" diameter = 35% bigger pipes/flow.
Workmanship seems otherwise similar except mandrel bends are fewer in PPE and the flex tube (resistance big time) is about 1/2 the length on the PPE.
These throw a code (PPE catted don't) and these only rated 2 of 5 stars by their customers... see the page..
The rest is inconsequential as there is no drone with PPE, et.c... still you decide.
What I know after watching them fit by the fabricator  (Paul)


I'm going catless ... same 3.5 diameter for those as well ?

one cust review don't say much to me ... besides it was for catted
2013 SHO  ....  not mine anymore

2021 Edge ST

EcoPowerParts

Actually both are 2.5" downpipes and catless to catless.
I know that the CTS-V guys HATE the SW headers
Give me until tomorrow to show specs to Paul so he can rebut, if they're cheaper and same materials (I can't speak on their build quality) then by all means go SW. I know one of the guys on here has them and loves them.
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please use my website for any price quotes and to submit any orders.
Please email me via info@ecopowerparts.com if you have any questions on new or existing orders, PM's via the forum are hard to track your purchase as I can't relate user name to actual name.
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SwampRat

Quote from: 4DRHTRD on February 18, 2014, 10:31:14 PM
Actually both are 2.5" downpipes and catless to catless.
I know that the CTS-V guys HATE the SW headers
Give me until tomorrow to show specs to Paul so he can rebut, if they're cheaper and same materials (I can't speak on their build quality) then by all means go SW. I know one of the guys on here has them and loves them.


Why do the the CTS-V guys "hate" them  ?  Also  , if the Flexpipe is longer on the PPE  I think that would be a plus for me  , especially with a cutout later .
2013 SHO  ....  not mine anymore

2021 Edge ST

68_GT

Quote from: SwampRat on February 18, 2014, 10:15:10 PM
I was getting ready to order PPE catless Downpipes  but Noticed that Stage 3 Motor Sports has Stainless Works catless for quite a bit less .. I would like to keep things in house that are available on the forum BUT ... $576.00  with free shipping .

Any differences with material or craftsmanship ?

http://www.stage3motorsports.com/TA10ECODP-2010-2013-Taurus-SHO-3-5L-EcoBoost-Stainless-Works-Downpipes.html
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the ones you showed are catted for $576 where are the SW catless pipes ?
2013 PP SHO LMS 93V10 tune, 170* T stat, 3bar, K&N drop in, plugs re-gapped, 4in exhaust tips.
UPDATE - 130K miles =blown engine. Unleashed tune and EBPP upgrade turbo billet wheels / Turbo Smart WGA's on a bran new long block. Let's get this SHO on the road !

2013 Fusion Titanium 2.0 EB daily driver ;) - LMS 93 tune and CPE intercooler

DJE624

Those are the catless.  The catted are $150 more in the drop down menu.

EcoPowerParts

I made SwampRat an offer he couldn't refuse. :) I can't get to the same price as the SW but I can get close and I strongly believe the PPE are better quality.
Mike B | info@ecopowerparts.com
www.ecopowerparts.com -
please use my website for any price quotes and to submit any orders.
Please email me via info@ecopowerparts.com if you have any questions on new or existing orders, PM's via the forum are hard to track your purchase as I can't relate user name to actual name.
https://www.facebook.com/ecopowerparts

SwampRat

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Quote from: 4DRHTRD on February 18, 2014, 10:59:43 PM
I made SwampRat an offer he couldn't refuse. :) I can't get to the same price as the SW but I can get close and I strongly believe the PPE are better quality.

SOLD !
2013 SHO  ....  not mine anymore

2021 Edge ST

MTaurusSHO

2013 Tuxedo Black Non PP SHO
AirAid, LMS Tuned, Plugs and T-Stat.
2002  MMM Z28
F1 Procharged 408ci

SwampRat

Quote from: SwampRat on February 18, 2014, 11:03:38 PM
Quote from: 4DRHTRD on February 18, 2014, 10:59:43 PM
I made SwampRat an offer he couldn't refuse. :) I can't get to the same price as the SW but I can get close and I strongly believe the PPE are better quality.

SOLD !


Ordered and paid for Ye Haw  ! !
2013 SHO  ....  not mine anymore

2021 Edge ST

EcoPowerParts

Mike B | info@ecopowerparts.com
www.ecopowerparts.com -
please use my website for any price quotes and to submit any orders.
Please email me via info@ecopowerparts.com if you have any questions on new or existing orders, PM's via the forum are hard to track your purchase as I can't relate user name to actual name.
https://www.facebook.com/ecopowerparts

BBOX


FoMoCoSHO

I would comment but I haven't unwrapped mine yet.

:pat:

My mistake was unwrapping the cutout first.