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Unwrapping My New ATP +2 Turbos! THEY'VE ARRIVED!

Started by bpd1151, October 17, 2013, 10:00:07 PM

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bpd1151

Welp, today's the big day.

Day 1 of this project.

Just wish my schedule, and that of my mechanic friend's was able to jive a lil more closely.

I'm heading into the surgeon's office here shortly, for my post-op appointment, and I see no reason why he's not going to re-release me back to work.

As such, I am (conveniently) scheduled to work both tonight, and tomorrow night. Considering I've been off work sick for nearly 3 weeks, trying to pull a 12hr overnight shift is needless to say, going to be a tough go.

Therefore, my involvement in this turbo swap isn't going to be anywhere near as involved as I would prefer, or like it to be.

Still, I'll try to get in a few hours today, and perhaps Tuesday and Wednesday as well. We'll see how it goes.

I do plan on leaving my smaller digital camera with him, and hopefully he'll be mindful of snapping off a few pics here and there as the process unfolds.

I know he was leaning towards dropping the entire engine to access the turbos more easily. Yikes!

Wish us luck.

ONLYA6

For making it easier getting to the turbos I was thinking about supporting the motor as it is from across the strut towers then remove the engine cradle with the car up on a lift. I'm curious to see what your friend comes up with. I need to get under and look better at everything but so far that's how Im thinking about doing it.


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Steven

2013 Taurus SHO - Best ET 12.7/ MPH 110
1999 Mustang V6 - Turbo - 474 whp 431 wtq

EcoBrick Bob

I sent 4DR all the info from my(2010) Ford Flex manual(s) on removing the turbos sometime back.  As I recall, Ford shows removing the cradle, but know 4DR didn't have to do that.  Perhaps he can chime in.
2010 Red Candy/White EB Flex.. World's first 12 second Brick.. 12.904 @ 106.85 MPH - October 2011
2009 Spt. Red G8 GT - modded. best time 12.074 & 114.02 MPH
2008 White G8 GT - mods... 8.32 1/8 mi.

Naples, FL & Clear Lake, IA
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EcoPowerParts

Front turbo comes right out, rear turbo requires you rotating it behind the engine. I had a video of it but it was wiped when I reset my phone. :(
No reason to drop the cradle at all, pretty easy to do with the car on a lift.
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bpd1151

Yea, I remember 4DR saying he didn't (have to drop the cradle).

So IDK. I yield to my mechanic friend for ultimate guidance.

I know he was himming and hawing about how to go about it.

So we'll see.

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SHOdded

"BPD to be released back in the wild, er, workplace".  Noteworthy headlines, no?  If you do end up dropping the cradle, check on the state of the bushings too, see how they're holding up.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

Boggus

Just install the front one and see how it runs!
2013 unleashed SHO PP

Boosted13

LOL... You're like a kid in a candy store. New mods FTW!!!  Hope it all works out the way you expect.
Sorry if it's a stupid question, but...do they mess with the wastegate springs at all or it is it all tuning as far as boost level?
2013 Flex Limited ECB
Air Raid Cold Air Kit
LMS Tuned

bpd1151

I would yield to 4DR, or to perhaps ATP Staff to answer that question regarding the spring tension settings.

I personally do not know. But I suppose I should.

:doh:

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EcoPowerParts

The wastegates are custom with higher spring tension. On our cars they work backwards of what you would think.
If the turbos have no boost to the wastegates (to atmosphere) you get the maximum boost - spring pressure
If the turbos have boost applied the open thereby reducing boost.
Crazy, huh?
So I am running mine with not boost source to the wastegates which gets me 26psi. I could try to adjust them BUT I'd have to drop the rear turbo and then HOPE I can get a couple more PSI.
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Boosted13

2013 Flex Limited ECB
Air Raid Cold Air Kit
LMS Tuned

bpd1151

Well...... last night was my 1st night back to work in 3+ weeks after having been sick.

As such, to say today is a "re-adjustment" day, as it pertains to any semblance of a sleep cycle would be an understatement.

Slept like crap this morning, and I decided to make a trek out to the mechanic's shop before this season's 1st snowfall arrives. Looks like a rain/snow/ice mix. Yuck. Seems a little earlier than usual.

Anyhow, made it out there, and shot the sh!t with my pal for a little bit.

He had the front OEM turbo already removed, and the new ATP Upgraded Turbo installed in it's place.

He was working on the rear one when I arrived.

My pal commented that the front OEM turbo appeared "pretty tired" adding that there was oil coming from the main seal and the wheels looked less than desirable.

He said that was likely due to pushing the factory turbos beyond their designed capacities.

Nothing unusual really, just said it was "good" that these upgraded one's were going in their place.

So not wanting to be too much in his way, and knowing I still had to get my butt back home to grab me an afternoon power nap as I'm on shift again tonight, I opted to snap a couple of pics of my own.

My pal did say he took some pics on my behalf.... so I'll have to post those when the install's all completed.

Here's a few images of the factory turbo removed, a couple of the new ATP turbo installed, as well as the incredibly restrictive "hot" (pressurized side) of the piping/plumbing, and one or two of the factory electric BOV's.

Enjoy, now going to back to bed.


Old, Front, OEM Turbo Removed:







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New ATP Turbo Installed:





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OEM "Hot" Piping and Factory Electric BOV's:








EcoPowerParts

#27
Yes the hot pipes I developed are 2" straight through. :) Much better flow.
I have 2 sets left! :P
I'll get some pics for you this afternoon of the pipes out of the car.
Great job with the pics!
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EcoBrick Bob

2010 Red Candy/White EB Flex.. World's first 12 second Brick.. 12.904 @ 106.85 MPH - October 2011
2009 Spt. Red G8 GT - modded. best time 12.074 & 114.02 MPH
2008 White G8 GT - mods... 8.32 1/8 mi.

Naples, FL & Clear Lake, IA
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bpd1151

Nope EBB. I still have yet to put down the deposit on a set.

I hope to do so after I square up with my mechanic for install fee(s), and then incur the shipping cost(s) of shipping cores back to their rightful owners / places.


4DR...... I wish the pics of the newly installed front turbo would've turned out a little bit better.

So much silver shiny stuff under there, it was wreaking havoc on my flash, and focusing.

Ugh....  :wall: