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Re: How-to optimize drag results
« Reply #15 on: October 24, 2014, 06:22:33 PM »
I've been running a 16% blend with 91 non ethanol and e85. No matter how many times I explain to the attendant exactly to the penny the amount of gas I want they always ask me why. I calculate it to the penny so that way I don't have to worry about accidentally squeezing over at the pump
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Re: How-to optimize drag results
« Reply #16 on: October 24, 2014, 08:24:00 PM »
Why don't you use 92/93 with E?
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Re: How-to optimize drag results
« Reply #17 on: October 24, 2014, 09:45:58 PM »
None available in my state
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Re: How-to optimize drag results
« Reply #18 on: October 25, 2014, 06:16:03 AM »
I've been running a 16% blend with 91 non ethanol and e85. No matter how many times I explain to the attendant exactly to the penny the amount of gas I want they always ask me why. I calculate it to the penny so that way I don't have to worry about accidentally squeezing over at the pump
They look at me weird too when I say I'll take $3.58 on pump whatever...don't know if it's a man this guy's broke look or is he insane look. Lol

Now that I'm sure to top off each time to keep the mix right, my other weird look getter is gone. As I'd come in purchase a few things and ask for total, then quickly do the math in my head to equal an even amount. The puzzled look when doing this turns to a wow look when they add the odd gas request and it's say $50 even...long lost art of math.

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Re: How-to optimize drag results
« Reply #19 on: October 25, 2014, 09:30:20 AM »
Should I take the under belly shield off?  I know at high speeds people have experienced hood vibration. Not sure if would happen or not at the strip. Thought by removing it might help with engine temps.


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Re: How-to optimize drag results
« Reply #20 on: October 25, 2014, 09:34:44 AM »
Should I take the under belly shield off?  I know at high speeds people have experienced hood vibration. Not sure if would happen or not at the strip. Thought by removing it might help with engine temps.


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Good question. Maybe extra drag would be created by removing this. Some have removed the plastic strip along the back of the hood where it meets the windshield. Might be a better option to avoid extra drag and the possible hood shake.

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Re: How-to optimize drag results
« Reply #21 on: October 25, 2014, 10:13:03 AM »
I would back Rich's comment about the plastic strip.  Getting rid of heat effectively will probably be a better approach for the drag strip.
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Re: How-to optimize drag results
« Reply #22 on: October 25, 2014, 10:54:02 AM »

Should I take the under belly shield off?  I know at high speeds people have experienced hood vibration. Not sure if would happen or not at the strip. Thought by removing it might help with engine temps.


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Good question. Maybe extra drag would be created by removing this. Some have removed the plastic strip along the back of the hood where it meets the windshield. Might be a better option to avoid extra drag and the possible hood shake.

Rich

Removal of the rubber seal at the back of the hood/firewall has been a good experience for me. No noticeable water intrusion at all and coupled with the engine cover removal, I have achieved a real measurable IAT2 temp drop. 
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Re: How-to optimize drag results
« Reply #23 on: October 25, 2014, 01:30:19 PM »
Interesting. I may give that a try. Thanks.


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Re: How-to optimize drag results
« Reply #24 on: October 26, 2014, 07:32:29 AM »
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00029KC2U/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 ordered some heat shield tape and installed it around the intake and with the combination of removing the cowl cover that Rich pointed out and engine cover will see a drop in IAT temp's cause our car's are so sealed top to bottom and limiting the engine to breathe,will check with torque if any drop in IAT'S.
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Re: How-to optimize drag results
« Reply #25 on: October 26, 2014, 08:06:55 AM »
Would like to defer the above mentioned credit to Larry, (thx though) as I'm pretty sure he was the one with this clever idea.

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Re: How-to optimize drag results
« Reply #26 on: August 25, 2016, 09:56:28 AM »
Taking my to local 1/8 mile track again this weekend. Great tips!

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Re: How-to optimize drag results
« Reply #27 on: April 17, 2017, 10:19:08 AM »
So newby to the SHO and AWD launching here, hoping to get a little clarification on the boost brake launch.

As soon as you go green and let off brake do you plant the throttle or roll into it at same time you let off brake?

I know when I have been trying to datalog if I just mat it, it tends to spin allot more than rolling into it.  That is usually colder road vs prepped track though.
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Re: How-to optimize drag results
« Reply #28 on: April 17, 2017, 10:44:32 AM »
So newby to the SHO and AWD launching here, hoping to get a little clarification on the boost brake launch.

As soon as you go green and let off brake do you plant the throttle or roll into it at same time you let off brake?

I know when I have been trying to datalog if I just mat it, it tends to spin allot more than rolling into it.  That is usually colder road vs prepped track though.

I got better results by putting it to the floor when launching, I would brake boost between 2000-2200 RPM, and on the 3rd yellow, let out of the brake and simultaneously floor it. This got pretty good reaction times, and nice 60' times with all season tires (1.7-1.9).
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Re: How-to optimize drag results
« Reply #29 on: April 17, 2017, 11:27:22 AM »
So newby to the SHO and AWD launching here, hoping to get a little clarification on the boost brake launch.

As soon as you go green and let off brake do you plant the throttle or roll into it at same time you let off brake?

I know when I have been trying to datalog if I just mat it, it tends to spin allot more than rolling into it.  That is usually colder road vs prepped track though.

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--push the gas so the rpm is 1900-2000 (for me).  keep it STEADY at that rpm.  The SOONER you can start this the better as you are low speed spooling the compressor.  With the compressor already spinning you have taken some of the inertia penalty away from the launch.
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