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That's the Brakes
« on: November 06, 2022, 10:51:23 PM »
I was told by the dealer my wife's 2019 (stock) SHO may need brakes soon. Although it's been a while, I was thinking this is something I could handle. To be sure, I dialed it up on the internet (where everything is true) & happen to see that the brake rotors & pads are typically replaced. At the risk of sounding stupid, we don't just swap out the brake pads anymore?

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Re: That's the Brakes
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2022, 03:47:33 AM »
rotors as they come from factory are typically thinner today than in days of yore.  plus they should be turned when not being replaced outright. reliable places to do that are not easy to find.

easier just to replace the set.
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Re: That's the Brakes
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2022, 11:24:28 AM »
I was told by the dealer my wife's 2019 (stock) SHO may need brakes soon. Although it's been a while, I was thinking this is something I could handle. To be sure, I dialed it up on the internet (where everything is true) & happen to see that the brake rotors & pads are typically replaced. At the risk of sounding stupid, we don't just swap out the brake pads anymore?

As stated above, rotors are thinner from the factory nowadays. Multiple benefits for the manufacturer. First, less material, less cost. Second, less unsprung/rotational mass means better performance (both the way we think of it and mpg). Third, the sooner they wear out, the sooner you need parts and may either buy factory-brand parts or have a dealer service your vehicle.

That being said, turning rotors is not only getting harder to find a place to do it because of skill, but also because of cost. They need to keep the equipment maintained and occupy a person with doing it. In addition, because the rotor is thinner, there is less material to correct issues in the rotor and less number of times they can be turned.

All this is to say that buying a set of pads and rotors is the best option and often the cheapest way to get good results. Try looking at sites like RockAuto that offer brake packages. They often come with everything needed and you can choose pads, pads and rotors, or pads, rotors, and calipers.
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Re: That's the Brakes
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2022, 08:57:00 PM »
Thank you both for your knowledgeable feedback. Glad I posted the question here. Looks unanimous, replace the pads & rotors.

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Re: That's the Brakes
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2022, 03:50:33 AM »
ford rotors/pads from a PP sho make a good replacement. otherwise look for high carbon rotors + police pads from raybestos/bendix/etc.

best to stay away from drilled/slotted rotors, unless you go higher end, not the garden variety you find on amazon or ebay.
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Re: That's the Brakes
« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2022, 09:26:17 PM »
Thanks for the tip. what's a PP?

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Re: That's the Brakes
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2022, 09:01:11 PM »
PP is Performance Package. A package for Law Enforcement vehicles and the like. Regular folks can order it too.

The brake pads, for instance, are interchangeable with the Non PP SHOs ( 2013 on up? ) and are better so its a great replacement.

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Re: That's the Brakes
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2022, 06:30:52 AM »
PP is Performance Package. A package for Law Enforcement vehicles and the like. Regular folks can order it too.

The brake pads, for instance, are interchangeable with the Non PP SHOs ( 2013 on up? ) and are better so its a great replacement.

PP is a Performance Package but differs from the PI package for law enforcement vehicles. They share some of the same options/components. In 2019, the PP includes enhanced sport-tuned suspension, high-performance front brake pads, sport-calibrated steering, AdvanceTrac electronic stability control with
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