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I think I hurt the PDSHO.
« on: April 19, 2021, 10:29:00 AM »
Hello, my 2013 Taurus Police sedan with 3.5 EB engine has been very reliable and trouble free until last week. I have 178K for miles and have driven 50K since I have owned it.
I first noticed a few little poof sounds while driving normally, especially when I would have low throttle and let off or a trans. shift.
Then yesterday I was driving and stepped on it and felt a lack of power.
So close to my house I spooled it up and full on launched from a stop and things sounded bad, no turbo sweetness, and when I looked out the rearview I was spewing a lot of blue smoke.
I limped her home and looked under the hood, no lines looked askew, all piping looked good and normal from above. Oil level is normal.
I'm afraid I may have blown a turbo or two. Ideas?
I'm all ears!
Thanks Greg

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Re: I think I hurt the PDSHO.
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2021, 04:41:02 PM »
Blue smoke or white smoke. In a panic. Its easy to see one or the other.

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Re: I think I hurt the PDSHO.
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2021, 06:23:55 PM »
Definitely blue smoke, and lots of it.
It uses very little oil and I have never seen a puff of smoke from it before.
I took it in to a shop for diagnosis today, they will look at it tomorrow.
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Re: I think I hurt the PDSHO.
« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2021, 05:28:12 PM »
Sounds like turbo to me.  Have you ever inspected the piping or the cooler?  Did pretty well for 200k miles.  I would look into how the timing system is doing also.
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Re: I think I hurt the PDSHO.
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2021, 07:09:10 PM »
Got my estimate from a pretty reputable shop, using new Ford turbos, possibly needing exhaust manifolds, replacing water pump and checking timing system, adding upgraded valve cover. $4500-6000.
That is getting into exceeding the value of the car. Then I could face a PTU failure at any time with that many miles!
So I'm leaning toward letting it go and finding a police explorer.
Thoughts?

Greg
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Re: I think I hurt the PDSHO.
« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2021, 01:14:10 AM »
Got my estimate from a pretty reputable shop, using new Ford turbos, possibly needing exhaust manifolds, replacing water pump and checking timing system, adding upgraded valve cover. $4500-6000.
That is getting into exceeding the value of the car. Then I could face a PTU failure at any time with that many miles!
So I'm leaning toward letting it go and finding a police explorer.
Thoughts?

Greg


I wouldn't put that kind of money into a car with that many miles on it. Besides ptu there are quite a few expensive things that could pop up at any time with those miles and once you put several grand into it you would almost feel obligated at that point to keep dumping money into it trying to get your value back.
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Re: I think I hurt the PDSHO.
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2021, 03:39:32 PM »
I picked the car up and will probably part it.
I don't know what it is worth as is, a mechanic at the repair shop offered me $700. I passed.
My son wants the Police Steel wheels for winter use on his Explorer Sport.
Are there parts on this car that are in demand?
Thanks Greg
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Re: I think I hurt the PDSHO.
« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2021, 10:40:55 AM »
Not to sound like that guy, but.  Used car and new car prices are soaring. Chip availability driving the prices and manufacturers only building high selling models. 5K to repair is a blow, but 10 to 15k to replace vehicle, if you can find one is high too. Plus you already know this vehicle will be done, with warranty.  Just saying.  Good luck regardless of your decision.
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Re: I think I hurt the PDSHO.
« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2021, 11:22:29 PM »
Thanks Bronco2fan, I have been running all that thru my head, and also there is the fact that I really enjoy driving the car.
But I had to face reality in that it is an old Cop car with 180K on it.
I started thinking about other expensive failures that could be right around the corner, PTU, Steering section, trans, rear-end etc.
I am curious if anyone has attempted this repair themselves, using rebuilt turbos from CRP Engineering.
I have mechanics in my family that would help me.
Greg
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Re: I think I hurt the PDSHO.
« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2021, 11:49:18 AM »
That's one of the main reasons I like the SHO too, such a fun car to drive and it's all wheel. Really came in handy during the ice storms here in Feb.  It and the Grand Cherokee are my winter rides lol.


I'm sure they are write ups all over on how to do the work. Have you checked the SHO Forum too? [size=78%]SHO Forum[/size] Lots of help there. I think you'll figure it out.
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