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SHO Modding Order
« on: April 09, 2020, 04:31:24 pm »
So I made this list in January on Facebook for some of the pages there so I figured I'd throw it here. I see people talking intakes, downpipes etc, but this in my opinion, is the proper way to modify your SHO piece by piece. So here it is...


I was thinking today about the list in which I would modify my SHO if I were starting from the beginning knowing what I know now. So here is a basic list. Only listing mods that make power or help put it down and not like the aesthetics obviously. Not listing Methanol because that's fairly subjective and would f**k up the entire listing. Would need to rearrange a few things with methanol added in

1) Tune and tune necessities (plugs and upgraded map)

2) Anthony DiCunzolo Trans Mounts. My favorite bolt on mod. Kill wheel hop and crisps up the 1-2 shift

3)Gearhead intercooler. My number two favorite bolt on. These cars f**king heat soak like a mofo and to anybody looking to make consistent power this is a great one.

4) Catless downpipes. PPE is what I personally run. Can't recommend them enough. Let those turbos free up some exhaust flow. Stock downpipe diameter is 1 7/8" and restricting things. Wrap them also to keep the PTU from having excessive extra heat on it.

5) EPP True Dual Intake. My god this thing just makes so much sense. Let's the turbos get their own intake tract so they aren't fighting each other. Also the induction noise is lovely.

6) XDI-35 HPFP. This one changes the car probably the most. Ability to max out the stock turbos and run e30+, but also a pricey item to have.

After this point I'd consider you "Full bolt ons." You can throw MSD coils in there at some point but I'd consider them non-essential however still beneficial. All these done and you are knocking at Upgraded turbos and DW300C LPFP. No custom exhaust after downpipes is listed because I figure it's a nonessential.

I personally recommend all of these and run all of these except for the EPP dual intake. I have the older J2 which is the same idea just not as nice.

Feel free to list out your recommended method to the madness if you feel like I didn't list things out properly. This is just IMO
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Re: SHO Modding Order
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2020, 04:46:59 pm »
I agree with Jordan. I personally would change the PTU and RDU fluids with Redline Lightweight ShockProof Fluid ASAP regardless of year.
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Re: SHO Modding Order
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2020, 06:10:52 am »
Now I'm a little surprised you didn't add lowering springs to your list, aren't they good for a couple tenths or at least one, with launching and such? 

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Re: SHO Modding Order
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2020, 08:20:14 am »
Now I'm a little surprised you didn't add lowering springs to your list, aren't they good for a couple tenths or at least one, with launching and such? 

FWIW before I did anything it was window tint and lowering springs!
Personally I don't think lowering springs deserve a spot. Problem is people don't keep up with maintaining their suspension so spring slapping won't do anything. I would put it under general maintenance with struts and what not but without more real data on how lowering springs effect the sway of the cars on launch I'm going to say unnecessary but not to be over looked.
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Re: SHO Modding Order
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2020, 10:43:50 am »
Don't lowering springs yield to overall better 60' times! I think they play an important role in aerodynamics. Z


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Re: SHO Modding Order
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2020, 11:15:10 am »
Don't lowering springs yield to overall better 60' times! I think they play an important role in aerodynamics. Z

Need some actual data on it on a test car before I'd make that assumption. Plenty of stock suspension people in the 1.7X sixty foots that I have seen so it's up in the air. Usually with the benefit of springs it's because of the backwards sway they dampen on launching so their isn't as much weight transfer off the front end. However, if someone has some crappy blown struts it's also going to effect the sixty negatively. Just like the MSD are an honorable mention and not a necessity despite proven power gains it's a "at the will of the person" type mod to me and not a game changer like the others above.
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Re: SHO Modding Order
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2020, 11:59:18 am »
I would also take in to account of a "better" performance tire. Personal choice should dictate what tires your should put on the car.

From personal experience with another SHO owner. He has a 17 GH tuned non PP SHO. I let him drive my SHO and the first thing he asked was, "What tires are on your SHO?" I have the Conti Extreme Contact, and he said they were way better then the stock tires that came on his SHO.

You can have all the power, suspension, ect, but what counts most is where the rubber meets the road.
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Re: SHO Modding Order
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2020, 03:18:09 pm »
Don't lowering springs yield to overall better 60' times! I think they play an important role in aerodynamics. Z

Need some actual data on it on a test car before I'd make that assumption. Plenty of stock suspension people in the 1.7X sixty foots that I have seen so it's up in the air. Usually with the benefit of springs it's because of the backwards sway they dampen on launching so their isn't as much weight transfer off the front end. However, if someone has some crappy blown struts it's also going to effect the sixty negatively. Just like the MSD are an honorable mention and not a necessity despite proven power gains it's a "at the will of the person" type mod to me and not a game changer like the others above.
The lowering springs should help the aerodynamics aspect since the SHO stance is high up from the factory. Agreed on providing actual data which is essential to any such mod.
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Re: SHO Modding Order
« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2020, 05:18:50 pm »
Yes lowering springs DO help in lowering 60fts.  Track photographer got a great photo of my car launching.  It showed the front struts at FULL extension, and the rears coils fully compressed, which inturn caused the front tires to loose traction for a split second.  When I bracket raced, my 60fts where high 1.9s due to how I had to stage too.  After putting on the H&Rs, and staging the same way, my 60fts dropped to mid 1.8s. 

Coilovers are even better, due to there adjustability.  Esp for changing track conditions.
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Re: SHO Modding Order
« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2020, 08:57:10 pm »
Very true there Brian.

Anyone who's been around this platform for a minute, knows full well that lowering springs alone, are a definitive performance upgrade.

The addition of which helps TREMENDOUSLY in preventing front to rear weight transfer, which in turn, helps mitigate loss of traction in/on the front axle primarily.

Coil overs are even better, but the lowering springs alone are tremendously beneficial.

Absolutely add them to the mod list. At a minimum.

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Re: SHO Modding Order
« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2020, 09:18:40 pm »
I found the pics that the track photographer took.  Just to show how much these car lift in the front.
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Re: SHO Modding Order
« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2020, 12:34:38 am »
Do you have the updated mounts installed yet, Brian?
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Re: SHO Modding Order
« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2020, 06:35:49 am »
Do you have the updated mounts installed yet, Brian?

Manu, no I haven't. 
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Re: SHO Modding Order
« Reply #13 on: April 11, 2020, 07:12:09 am »
The amount of stock suspension cars that have gone 1.7 sixty foot is too many for me to agree that springs make a huge difference. There is a few things why I'm not interested in adding them and here's why:

1)Like @SM105K said tires make a huge difference in the launching capability of the cars

2) worn suspension components causing extra sway

3) no trans mounts allowing the extra weight transfer and physical movement of the drivetrain

Like I said before they aren't to be over looked but I don't think they deserve a spot just like the msd coils despite giving an improvement. I just don't think that improvement is significant enough in comparison to the others. If I were to add every little thing that I know gives improvements over the big stepping stones type of mods I'd have a hefty list.
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