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Re: Any Explorer Sport intercoolers available?
« Reply #60 on: August 11, 2020, 08:34:20 AM »
Just checking in to see what updates you have for us. Any new developments? Anything you would do different?

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Re: Any Explorer Sport intercoolers available?
« Reply #61 on: August 11, 2020, 08:22:10 PM »
I can say with certainty that the intercooler is definitely an improvement. I've been monitoring the temps at the intake, after the intercooler and at the manifold more this past week. The temperature after the intercooler will hover right around the air intake temp, except when in traffic and the intercooler temp cools down much quicker than at the air intake.  The manifold on the other hand, seems to be a bit cooler than with the stock intercooler but that sensor is in a naturally hot location anyway.

As for boost differences, it's been hard to tell since the outside temps have been around 100 lately compared to high 80's/ low 90s when I first installed it. I have no proof other than my butt dyno that it does feel like it pulls harder if I do a 0-100 run on it.

Mishimoto is sending a stencil of the "M" so I can paint it on myself. They don't sell the black one with any markings on it for the stealth look, even though every picture but their website shows otherise.
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Re: Any Explorer Sport intercoolers available?
« Reply #62 on: August 16, 2020, 09:28:22 PM »
Just to put it out there, the stock intercooler weighs 7.40lbs on my scale and the Mishimoto is 18.7lbs according to the website. I didnít weigh the J-Line with any of the couplers or the aluminum extensions.
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Re: Any Explorer Sport intercoolers available?
« Reply #63 on: August 16, 2020, 10:11:35 PM »
Just to put it out there, the stock intercooler weighs 7.40lbs on my scale and the Mishimoto is 18.7lbs according to the website. I didnít weigh the J-Line with any of the couplers or the aluminum extensions.
Oh ok, but it did feel heavier than the stock one though huh? I think the benefits of the intercooler outweigh the weight gain though.

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Re: Any Explorer Sport intercoolers available?
« Reply #64 on: August 16, 2020, 11:00:10 PM »
Just to put it out there, the stock intercooler weighs 7.40lbs on my scale and the Mishimoto is 18.7lbs according to the website. I didnít weigh the J-Line with any of the couplers or the aluminum extensions.
Oh ok, but it did feel heavier than the stock one though huh? I think the benefits of the intercooler outweigh the weight gain though.

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Yeah it was noticeable when I took it out and put the Mishimoto in. One of the cons of a bar and plate IC but like you said the benefit of the cooling makes up for it.

I did pull on a 370z today while giving him the jump at a stop light. He looked puzzled afterwards.
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Re: Any Explorer Sport intercoolers available?
« Reply #65 on: September 05, 2020, 10:09:22 PM »
So I painted my J Line two days ago and it makes me realize how restricted the front is for pushing air through the intercooler. I was looking into the raptor grille but it looks like the airflow is even worse. There is one company that sells a bottom and top billet grille but honestly seeing through it looks even worse than a stock one.

I also almost donít like the M for how italicized it is making it look off center. It was lined up by the top right and bottom left correctly too.

Bottom grille received a glossy black coat too.

One item I recommend using for the plastic trim along the bottom of the Explorers is the Wizardís Black Renew. Makes Motherís back to black look like a joke.



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Re: Any Explorer Sport intercoolers available?
« Reply #66 on: September 05, 2020, 10:17:00 PM »
So I painted my J Line two days ago and it makes me realize how restricted the front is for pushing air through the intercooler. I was looking into the raptor grille but it looks like the airflow is even worse. There is one company that sells a bottom and top billet grille but honestly seeing through it looks even worse than a stock one.

I also almost donít like the M for how italicized it is making it look off center. It was lined up by the top right and bottom left correctly too.

Bottom grille received a glossy black coat too.

One item I recommend using for the plastic trim along the bottom of the Explorers is the Wizardís Black Renew. Makes Motherís back to black look like a joke.




Nice. I feel you on the airflow issue. I've been trying to visualize something that would look good but also functional. I absolutely hate those Raptor grilles, they look ridiculous on anything but a Raptor.  But you might be interested in the police interceptor grille. I was thinking about it but it would also need some cutting I think..

There are just no real options for the XSport, tbh.

Anyway, I would've left the IC raw aluminum. I like the look, like it means business with a mean looking aluminum intercooler in your face. There's also actually been some tests showing black intercoolers may not be as efficient as raw aluminum...I'll look for the link and pass it on.

But it's really cool what you've done and I am excited to get my version going as well. These things desperately need a more efficient IC.

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Re: Any Explorer Sport intercoolers available?
« Reply #67 on: September 05, 2020, 10:26:57 PM »
I was going to go with the unpainted IC but I figured black was going to be the best look overall. At this point I can just hope a car wash that has a bit of a higher pressure than a normal one can take my paint off slowly without damaging the fins.

The stock XLT grille looks like it has holes in it which I wonder if it would be able to line up with the Sports where we could turn those holes into vents for the intercooler.

I will say I averaged 25.7MPG going to Pagosa Springs this weekend which was about a 410 mile round trip with elevation varying from 4,600-10,800ft and 7% grades. I would see the temp at the throttle body cooler than at the airbox quite often too which was noticeable climbing elevation. Had cruise control on mostly at 67-77mph as well with temps 80-95F ambient.
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Re: Any Explorer Sport intercoolers available?
« Reply #68 on: September 05, 2020, 10:30:49 PM »
I was going to go with the unpainted IC but I figured black was going to be the best look overall. At this point I can just hope a car wash that has a bit of a higher pressure than a normal one can take my paint off slowly without damaging the fins.

The stock XLT grille looks like it has holes in it which I wonder if it would be able to line up with the Sports where we could turn those holes into vents for the intercooler.

I will say I averaged 25.7MPG going to Pagosa Springs this weekend which was about a 410 mile round trip with elevation varying from 4,600-10,800ft and 7% grades. I would see the temp at the throttle body cooler than at the airbox quite often too which was noticeable climbing elevation. Had cruise control on mostly at 67-77mph as well with temps 80-95F ambient.
Awesome results. Need to do some data logging on a few particular parameters so you can find out how truly efficient it is.  Calculating Boost Air Density is a great way to compare apples to apples when doing mods and seeing how they effected performance even under different test conditions.

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Re: Any Explorer Sport intercoolers available?
« Reply #69 on: October 02, 2020, 09:10:25 AM »
There's also this for black intercoolers, black coolers are probably best for staging but less effective during while moving.


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Re: Any Explorer Sport intercoolers available?
« Reply #70 on: October 21, 2020, 10:16:17 AM »
Looks like someone finally came to market with one.  Garrett cores are good quality cores, but it sure does require a lot of cutting of the core support.  I realize there isn't much real estate in this platform but it ma turn some buyers off.  Still, it's nice to finally see one being marketed...
https://ultimateperformancenm.com/shop/ols/products/13-19-ford-explorer-sport-intercooler

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Re: Any Explorer Sport intercoolers available?
« Reply #71 on: October 21, 2020, 02:21:56 PM »
Thatís quite a bit more than I cut out. Looks like making one from a Mishimoto J Line you have a 22Ē vs 24Ē core and 7.2Ē vs 8Ē height. So a small trade off in size but also $650 in savings.

Also curious how much more this IC weighs compared to my J line.
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Re: Any Explorer Sport intercoolers available?
« Reply #72 on: October 21, 2020, 08:20:52 PM »
Yeah, I'm trying to find some data on the Mishimoto as far as flow data is, but its hard to find, but from a quality perspective, Mishimoto isn't even in the same league as Garrett. Not knocking your setup, nor do I have any ideas about the quality of this new kit, but I can appreciate that they went with a top-of-the-line brand that is proven on high end builds.  Mishimoto is marketed toward the entry-level, budget build area and works great there.


Would be an interesting comparison. That Garrett core holds about 15% more volume of air. Almost 100 cubic inches.


The question is CFM, though. Ratings for Mishimoto say up to 500hp, while Garret rates theirs at up to 600hp..


I smell a test! Lol...

 

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