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Thinking of deleting mid muffler

Started by SuperPete, February 06, 2020, 10:49:09 PM

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SuperPete

Few months back when I had my PTO go out, I was loading car on the trailer to take it to the dealer and some how trailer was high or ramps steep, anyway, on the way in and out it bent my mid muffler can some, I will post picture later.
I am sure at this point it's restricting some flow.

I am thinking of deleting it, did read all I can read on this forum about it.
I don't want it to be loud or rattly or some kind of aquaria noisy unpleasant ride, here and there I take my clients to lunch and I don't want them to feel like they are in ghetto car, makes me look bad.
Anyway, if I get rid of mid muffler, how bad is it and do I gain anything from doing so?

2014 SHO, GearHead TUNNED /Powered by Matt Robinson
PPE Downpipes, GearHead Intercooler, AirAid Intake
XDI-35 HPFP @ E40,   MSD Coilpacks
MUSTANG DYNO: 426/446
Continental Extreme Contact 06 & Powerstop Z23 all 4 corners

StinkinLinkin13

No gains. Its a resonator and is practically straight through... It will make for a boomier cabin. Made this mistake once.
Livernois Catless downpipes with Totalflow mufflers - AJP E40/Meth tune - Firestorm HPFP - DW 300 LPFP - Kenne Bell Boost-a-Pump - 3 Bar Map - Alky Controls Meth Injection - 160° Thermostat - EPP Hot Pipes - AEM Dryflow Filter - BOV VTA - SSM Polyurethane Torque Struts - H&R Sport Springs - 20"x10" Niche Veronas on 275/40-20 DWS06 -

SuperPete

2014 SHO, GearHead TUNNED /Powered by Matt Robinson
PPE Downpipes, GearHead Intercooler, AirAid Intake
XDI-35 HPFP @ E40,   MSD Coilpacks
MUSTANG DYNO: 426/446
Continental Extreme Contact 06 & Powerstop Z23 all 4 corners

Chris_Flex

2013 Ford Flex Ecoboost
BC Coilovers
Trans mounts
Unleashed e30 Tune

SuperPete

Chris, I would like to meet up with you, hear your setup.
Too close not to :)
Maybe this weekend or when ever
2014 SHO, GearHead TUNNED /Powered by Matt Robinson
PPE Downpipes, GearHead Intercooler, AirAid Intake
XDI-35 HPFP @ E40,   MSD Coilpacks
MUSTANG DYNO: 426/446
Continental Extreme Contact 06 & Powerstop Z23 all 4 corners

Chris_Flex

Quote from: SuperPete on February 07, 2020, 11:03:15 AM
Chris, I would like to meet up with you, hear your setup.
Too close not to :)
Maybe this weekend or when ever
Where are you located?

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2013 Ford Flex Ecoboost
BC Coilovers
Trans mounts
Unleashed e30 Tune

SuperPete

2014 SHO, GearHead TUNNED /Powered by Matt Robinson
PPE Downpipes, GearHead Intercooler, AirAid Intake
XDI-35 HPFP @ E40,   MSD Coilpacks
MUSTANG DYNO: 426/446
Continental Extreme Contact 06 & Powerstop Z23 all 4 corners

StinkinLinkin13

#7
Keep in mind I have catless downpipes and gutted third cat and straight through mufflers... Worst thing in my experience is when I load up the family and cruising at highway speed it would start resonating (booming) pretty badly... Had to turn up the radio... 😂

Main point is there is no restriction from the resonator, no gains. Third cat is the primary restrictions there.
Livernois Catless downpipes with Totalflow mufflers - AJP E40/Meth tune - Firestorm HPFP - DW 300 LPFP - Kenne Bell Boost-a-Pump - 3 Bar Map - Alky Controls Meth Injection - 160° Thermostat - EPP Hot Pipes - AEM Dryflow Filter - BOV VTA - SSM Polyurethane Torque Struts - H&R Sport Springs - 20"x10" Niche Veronas on 275/40-20 DWS06 -

SuperPete

So, what if I just remove 3rd cat, just that
2014 SHO, GearHead TUNNED /Powered by Matt Robinson
PPE Downpipes, GearHead Intercooler, AirAid Intake
XDI-35 HPFP @ E40,   MSD Coilpacks
MUSTANG DYNO: 426/446
Continental Extreme Contact 06 & Powerstop Z23 all 4 corners

avidmotion

If removed 3rd cat does it then drone or sound raspy....any performance gain at all like maybe turbos spool up faster?
Sp542@.028, windstorm CAI, MSD coils, AO GH TUNE, GH intercooler, All Amsoil, General Gmax-rs summer tires, +PP, PP PADS,EDC rotors, Colinite 476s wax, used PPE DPs, Resonator | 3rd Cat Delete with custom X pipe, Dicunzolo Gen2 Trans Mounts|, 3 bar, stock thermostat,  TRACY LEWIS DESIGNED Team RXP, the Original oil separator.

SuperPete

Anyone with experience on deleting just the 3rd cat??

2014 SHO, GearHead TUNNED /Powered by Matt Robinson
PPE Downpipes, GearHead Intercooler, AirAid Intake
XDI-35 HPFP @ E40,   MSD Coilpacks
MUSTANG DYNO: 426/446
Continental Extreme Contact 06 & Powerstop Z23 all 4 corners

StinkinLinkin13

I never actually deleted it but I did hollow it out and used it as a crossover/midpipe. I do believe however that the two (third cat and resonator) and their positioning are used in conjunction to help keep the sound in check. Gets a little louder with it hollowed out. How much louder obviously depends on your downpipe setup/mufflers. Rasp and drone are affected by those other components as well.
Livernois Catless downpipes with Totalflow mufflers - AJP E40/Meth tune - Firestorm HPFP - DW 300 LPFP - Kenne Bell Boost-a-Pump - 3 Bar Map - Alky Controls Meth Injection - 160° Thermostat - EPP Hot Pipes - AEM Dryflow Filter - BOV VTA - SSM Polyurethane Torque Struts - H&R Sport Springs - 20"x10" Niche Veronas on 275/40-20 DWS06 -

SM105K

"M" 2013 SHO PP | AJPTurbo E30 Tune | FS HPFP | Stock IC with Ice Water DIY Sprayer | PPE Downpipes | Custom Magnaflow Resonator | 3rd Cat Delete | Derale Upgraded Trans Cooler | Dicunzolo Gen2 Trans Mounts| EPP Noisemaker Eliminator | MSD Coil Over Plugs | SP-542's | UPR Dual Valve Catch Can | K&N Drop In | Power Stop Slotted and Drilled Rotors with Stock PP Pads | H&R Springs  | AVS Flush Deflector | 802SHO Custom Splitter | Duraflex Chin Spoiler | Curva Concept C7's | Continental DWS06 Extreme Contact Rubber | 411 HP and 546 TQ |

"The Fukus" 2013 Focus ST | Boomba BOV | FSWerks Short Shifter | Power Stop Brakes | Continental DWS06 Extreme Contact Rubber |

6500rpm

Quote from: SM105K on February 10, 2020, 10:11:52 AM
https://shoforum.com/index.php?threads/sm105ks-ownership-performance-maintenance-thread.138235/page-19

On post 369 you can see and hear what I did to mine.  I love it.  It is quiet and made power.
I'd have to say that I  liked door number 2 in that video. If you don't  get a drone at cruise it has a good tone to it.
2013 SHO PP in Ruby Red Metallic, GTG Billet Grills, Duraflex Racer Chin Spoiler, DriveBright LED Driving/Turn Lights,160 T Stat, MSD Coils, All Royal Purple Lubricants, EPP Gen 2 Duel Intake and hotpipes,3 bar, Gearhead AO tuned!


SM105K

Quote from: 6500rpm on February 10, 2020, 06:23:00 PM
Quote from: SM105K on February 10, 2020, 10:11:52 AM
https://shoforum.com/index.php?threads/sm105ks-ownership-performance-maintenance-thread.138235/page-19

On post 369 you can see and hear what I did to mine.  I love it.  It is quiet and made power.
I'd have to say that I  liked door number 2 in that video. If you don't  get a drone at cruise it has a good tone to it.

Zero drone and no crappy EB tone because I still have stock mufflers.
"M" 2013 SHO PP | AJPTurbo E30 Tune | FS HPFP | Stock IC with Ice Water DIY Sprayer | PPE Downpipes | Custom Magnaflow Resonator | 3rd Cat Delete | Derale Upgraded Trans Cooler | Dicunzolo Gen2 Trans Mounts| EPP Noisemaker Eliminator | MSD Coil Over Plugs | SP-542's | UPR Dual Valve Catch Can | K&N Drop In | Power Stop Slotted and Drilled Rotors with Stock PP Pads | H&R Springs  | AVS Flush Deflector | 802SHO Custom Splitter | Duraflex Chin Spoiler | Curva Concept C7's | Continental DWS06 Extreme Contact Rubber | 411 HP and 546 TQ |

"The Fukus" 2013 Focus ST | Boomba BOV | FSWerks Short Shifter | Power Stop Brakes | Continental DWS06 Extreme Contact Rubber |