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3 Bar sensor

Started by SoCalSHO, August 31, 2013, 01:38:49 PM

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EcoBrick Bob

Torrie discounts Ford parts.  You might find a cheaper source, but you know you're getting the right part when you order from Torrie.  Same from Livernois. The numbers on these sensors are very similar.  I have a damaged 2 bar sensor and the 3 bar sensor  in a box & numbers are almost identical except for last letters.  The 3 bar sensors are made in Germany.  It's not like you are going to save big $$$.  Maybe $10-$20.. at most.
2010 Red Candy/White EB Flex.. World's first 12 second Brick.. 12.904 @ 106.85 MPH - October 2011
2009 Spt. Red G8 GT - modded. best time 12.074 & 114.02 MPH
2008 White G8 GT - mods... 8.32 1/8 mi.

Naples, FL & Clear Lake, IA
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BigPelo

Let me know if I understand correctly:

The item #4 in this picture is a 3 bar MAP sensor that my SHO came with



And the item #9F479 in the next picture is originally a 2 bar MAP that I need to swap with the 3 bar I just purchased

Week-end family transporter: 2013 SHO tuxedo black, performance package, unleashed custom 94 octane tune, K&N Typhoon intake, 170F thermostat, 3 bar MAP sensor, SP534 spark plugs, 5000K HID Morimoto mini D2S projectors retrofit, tinted windows, Full LED lighting in and out, Eibach springs
Daily beater: 2002 WRX wagon swap JDM STi v7 20G'd

TaurusBuilder

Still confused on why I need this. But I want to order it today if it adds performance. Just need a link


Soon to be fastest MKS on the planet!
Mods: Magnaflow exhaust with cut-outs, Ecoboost hot pipes with BOV, Injen intake, Livernois 4+ tune,LMS downpipes,NGK spark plugs, 170 thermostat, RK sport roof spoiler........lots more to come

DJE624

Yes Pelo.  You are swapping out the sensor on top center of the intake manifold. 

EcoBrick Bob

The 3 bar sensor by itself doesn't mean more boost.  What it does is allow your tuning specialist to tune your car correctly at boost levels above 1 bar. ( roughly 15 psi).  So... this means that your stock turbos or custom turbos can be tuned to provide higher boost levels, depending on other mods and fuel choice.
2010 Red Candy/White EB Flex.. World's first 12 second Brick.. 12.904 @ 106.85 MPH - October 2011
2009 Spt. Red G8 GT - modded. best time 12.074 & 114.02 MPH
2008 White G8 GT - mods... 8.32 1/8 mi.

Naples, FL & Clear Lake, IA
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Larrylu

Say you swap for the 3 bar and get the tune that takes advantage of it. Is the stock tune able to work ok with the 3 bar sensor?  I'd hate to have to put the 2 bar back in just to revert back to a stock tune say for a dealer visit.
2010 Loaded, Non PP, Steel Blue Metallic, Livernois Stage 4+, Blacked out grill, Nexus 7 Tablet running Torque Pro

crash712us

Quote from: Larrylu on November 13, 2013, 11:26:19 PM
Say you swap for the 3 bar and get the tune that takes advantage of it. Is the stock tune able to work ok with the 3 bar sensor?  I'd hate to have to put the 2 bar back in just to revert back to a stock tune say for a dealer visit.

Nope, if you go back stock you have to swap out the MAP sensor. Sensor can be changed in less than 5mins.

2011 tuxedo black non pp, LMS stage 5, Corsa cat back, LMS down pipes, Airaid, Alky control meth injection, Megan Racing coil overs, EBC rotor&pads, Mobsteel grill, 2013 trans cooler. 403whp 417wtq 12.25 @ 110

Larrylu

Thanks for the info. I'm glad I asked about that. Never thought about that scenario before.
2010 Loaded, Non PP, Steel Blue Metallic, Livernois Stage 4+, Blacked out grill, Nexus 7 Tablet running Torque Pro

TouchOfEvil

Quote from: Needmoreboost on November 13, 2013, 07:20:26 PM
Quote from: EcoBrick Bob on November 13, 2013, 07:05:48 PM
The 3 bar sensor by itself doesn't mean more boost.  What it does is allow your tuning specialist to tune your car correctly at boost levels above 1 bar. ( roughly 15 psi).  So... this means that your stock turbos or custom turbos can be tuned to provide higher boost levels, depending on other mods and fuel choice.

Bob, your so smart.  I think most people can figure out a map sensor does not automatically tune itself...  Lol

You're*
Also, i'd doubt your assumption. Most people likely don't know what a map sensor even is.
2014 XSport

68_GT

ordered AA5Z-9F479-B for $83 plus shipping from Tousley Ford. He says the number is
AA5Z-9F479-AB on the actual part just like the picture someone posted on the previous page. He pulled a few MAP sensors from ecoboost vehicles since he was curious about the 3 bar becasue he has a Focus ST and likes ecoboost performance.

He comparred several MAP sensors and couldn't tell the difference in them at all. I figured the 3 bar with the part number above would have 3 wires / bars / sensors going through the actual sensor part kind of like a MAF sensor has those delicate little bars in there that you clean.

Oh well I ordered the right part for a good deal now bring the XV1 tune LMS !!!!!!!!!
2013 PP SHO LMS 93V10 tune, 170* T stat, 3bar, K&N drop in, plugs re-gapped, 4in exhaust tips.
UPDATE - 130K miles =blown engine. Unleashed tune and EBPP upgrade turbo billet wheels / Turbo Smart WGA's on a bran new long block. Let's get this SHO on the road !

2013 Fusion Titanium 2.0 EB daily driver ;) - LMS 93 tune and CPE intercooler

FoMoCoSHO

Can't go wrong with Tousley, they rock!


EcoBrick Bob

Do you think a 3 bar sensor holds more liquor than a 2 bar?   OOPS...
2010 Red Candy/White EB Flex.. World's first 12 second Brick.. 12.904 @ 106.85 MPH - October 2011
2009 Spt. Red G8 GT - modded. best time 12.074 & 114.02 MPH
2008 White G8 GT - mods... 8.32 1/8 mi.

Naples, FL & Clear Lake, IA
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BiGMaC

EB... No, the 3 bar sensor just finds a higher concentration of ethanol sales locations in a confined space so you don't have to drive.... sorry, couldn't resist

•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

EcoBrick Bob

Damn... I thought you were kidding... but you are spot on!!!!  I even found one with 15%... and it attracts 85% stations like a sky hook!!!!
2010 Red Candy/White EB Flex.. World's first 12 second Brick.. 12.904 @ 106.85 MPH - October 2011
2009 Spt. Red G8 GT - modded. best time 12.074 & 114.02 MPH
2008 White G8 GT - mods... 8.32 1/8 mi.

Naples, FL & Clear Lake, IA
Bob has decided not to post here any more, please do not PM him he will not receive it.

68_GT

I assume there is no reason / benefit to install my 3 bar until LMS has their XV1 tune ready right ? I mean there's no benefit with out the new tune so why bother asking them to tweak my current stage 3 or 4 tune just to run it for no reason in the mean time ?
2013 PP SHO LMS 93V10 tune, 170* T stat, 3bar, K&N drop in, plugs re-gapped, 4in exhaust tips.
UPDATE - 130K miles =blown engine. Unleashed tune and EBPP upgrade turbo billet wheels / Turbo Smart WGA's on a bran new long block. Let's get this SHO on the road !

2013 Fusion Titanium 2.0 EB daily driver ;) - LMS 93 tune and CPE intercooler