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No start??? Wtf??????

Started by Flexthis2011EB, August 06, 2016, 06:24:39 PM

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Flexthis2011EB

Weirdest thing happened. Driving down the highway i was curious to see if i had any other codes on my pcm other than bank 2 threshold, so i plugged my scanner in the obd2 port and all of a sudden all of the lights on the dash came on, batt, tpms, abs, service trac control message displayed, all this weird s***. So i pulled over, turned the car off and now cant restart it. Wont even crank. When i put key forward to ign, all those lights illuminate again along with blinking antitheft light. Also,  my scanner now wint link to my car abd my mileage data on dash has been erased. Does anyone know what the hell could gave happened? Im scared
2011 Ford Flex AWD Ecoboost 3.5l twinturbo

SHOdded

Did you remove the scanner, then try to restart?  Some OBD scanners will cause false issues.  May need to pull the neg battery cable for 30 min.

I have not attached a scanner mid-drive before, always at a stop.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

Flexthis2011EB

30 min? No. I did for about 10 min. And yes, i unplugged then tried again. Nothing. Im getting it towed home now. I will try a full 30 min reset.
2011 Ford Flex AWD Ecoboost 3.5l twinturbo

SHOdded

Could be a fault with the instrument cluster as well.  I believe it stores the PATS information, and if that is truly lost, that would explain the no-start condition.  Maybe it's just a fuse that blew.  I don't think the PCM is bricked ... yet.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

Flexthis2011EB

Ive been reading about the steering angle sensor going bad? Would that cause a no start/crank? Or a sudden dash illumination freak out?
2011 Ford Flex AWD Ecoboost 3.5l twinturbo

ZSHO

#5
Did you try using a different key Fob to see if it starts?....battery could be low,try placing it in the tranceiver.  Z


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

Flexthis2011EB

Quote from: ZSHO on August 06, 2016, 07:45:27 PM
Did you try using a different key Fob to see if it starts?....battery could be low.  Z

I only have 1 fob. And the battery reads 12.3 volts. That should be enough to start the car, right?
2011 Ford Flex AWD Ecoboost 3.5l twinturbo

ZSHO

Quote from: Flexthis2011EB on August 06, 2016, 07:52:55 PM
Quote from: ZSHO on August 06, 2016, 07:45:27 PM
Did you try using a different key Fob to see if it starts?....battery could be low.  Z

I only have 1 fob. And the battery reads 12.3 volts. That should be enough to start the car, right?
Try putting the key fob inside the transceiver to see if it starts,the car battery sounds sufficient.


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

Flexthis2011EB

Quote from: ZSHO on August 06, 2016, 08:12:47 PM
Quote from: Flexthis2011EB on August 06, 2016, 07:52:55 PM
Quote from: ZSHO on August 06, 2016, 07:45:27 PM
Did you try using a different key Fob to see if it starts?....battery could be low.  Z

I only have 1 fob. And the battery reads 12.3 volts. That should be enough to start the car, right?
Try putting the key fob inside the transceiver to see if it starts,the car battery sounds sufficient.
Wheres the transciever?
2011 Ford Flex AWD Ecoboost 3.5l twinturbo

ZSHO

#9
Quote from: Flexthis2011EB on August 06, 2016, 08:16:42 PM
Quote from: ZSHO on August 06, 2016, 08:12:47 PM
Quote from: Flexthis2011EB on August 06, 2016, 07:52:55 PM
Quote from: ZSHO on August 06, 2016, 07:45:27 PM
Did you try using a different key Fob to see if it starts?....battery could be low.  Z

I only have 1 fob. And the battery reads 12.3 volts. That should be enough to start the car, right?
Try putting the key fob inside the transceiver to see if it starts,the car battery sounds sufficient.
Wheres the transciever?
Glovebox on the far right hand side,just insert your fob inside the slot,mines located on the center armrest console and see if that works . Z


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

Flexthis2011EB

Quote from: ZSHO on August 06, 2016, 08:36:22 PM
Quote from: Flexthis2011EB on August 06, 2016, 08:16:42 PM
Quote from: ZSHO on August 06, 2016, 08:12:47 PM
Quote from: Flexthis2011EB on August 06, 2016, 07:52:55 PM
Quote from: ZSHO on August 06, 2016, 07:45:27 PM
Did you try using a different key Fob to see if it starts?....battery could be low.  Z

I only have 1 fob. And the battery reads 12.3 volts. That should be enough to start the car, right?
Try putting the key fob inside the transceiver to see if it starts,the car battery sounds sufficient.
Wheres the transciever?
Glovebox on the far right hand side,just insert your fob inside the slot,mines located on the center armrest console and see if that works . Z
On the flex?  Im looking and see nothing to stick fob into
2011 Ford Flex AWD Ecoboost 3.5l twinturbo

ZSHO

#11
Sorry for the delay,1)try pressing the push button start(twice)to ignition mode and then move the shift selection gear throughout all the gears,park,drive ,reverse,etc and while in neutral try starting it to see if it starts,just so many things to consider like a neutral safety switch, brake pedal switch maybe or try checking the pcm fuse/relay and immobilizer fuse and keep us updated and also try getting a new key fob battery(2032).  Z


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

Flexthis2011EB

Quote from: ZSHO on August 06, 2016, 10:03:15 PM
Sorry for the delay,1)try pressing the push button start(twice)to ignition mode and then move the shift selection gear throughout all the gears,park,drive ,reverse,etc and while in neutral try starting it to see if it starts,just so many things to consider like a neutral safety switch, brake pedal switch maybe or try checking the pcm fuse/relay and immobilizer fuse and keep us updated and also try getting a new key fob battery(2032).  Z
Its ok. And theres no push start. Its a 2011 flex. But i will try everything else you mentioned. So far ive tried jumping battery,  resetting battery/pcm for over an hour, checked all fuses and relays, and even tried jumping starter from batt with key in ign. It wont turn over. Just cranks and cranks. If nothing happens tonight, i will be bringing to ford tomorrow.  Will keep u posted.
2011 Ford Flex AWD Ecoboost 3.5l twinturbo

L1gerZero

Could always go the old fashioned way. Check to see if you have spark and fuel. find the schrader valve and see if there's any fuel pressure built up (not familiar with the vehicle to this point so correct me if i'm wrong) and pull coil and see if you are getting spark.
2017 Lincoln MKZ Black Label 3.0 AWD

FoMoCoSHO

What kind of OBD?

Sounds like it may have caused an issue.

I'd turn on the lights and pull the battery cable.

Let it sit for a while and reconnect.