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One 1/4 Mile Launch 2 Many, Trouble Codes Cyl 2 Misfire, Intake Camshhaft Pos.

Started by irondoor19, June 13, 2016, 10:27:01 AM

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irondoor19

Ok:

Doing my Weekly 1/4 Mile Run, From a Light, A LARGE CLOUD of Smoke (oil and Or White)
at the the End of it, Engine Light Came on, Running Rough, limped back to the Shop, and
the Following Codes (stored Codes) From my dash command App...


Cylinder 2 misfire Detected (2 Times)
Intake (A) Camshaft Positioning Timing - Over-Advanced (Bank 2) (2 Times)
Intake (A) Camshaft Positioning Timing - Over Advanced (Bank 1) (2 Times)

my initial thought is Coil Pack (to Start), but i believe there is more,
as the oil indication light is ON, or came on one or twice...

Direction from Here, thanks :(

Start it (a couple Times, and it Smokes like it is on Fire,
yea my MECH said, "sounds like it Jumped a Tooth"
Codes are all Stored... Will get to No 2 Tomor, Never checked the
intercooler or Tubing at all 39K Miles on it... Hope it Did not Jump..
2010 Lincoln MKS, BONE Stock for Now, 2014 3.7L Police, Drop IN K&N,

glock-coma

I would check cylinder 2 plug to see if it's damaged, or has excessive fuel on it.

The camshaft position sensor may have tried to over compensate for the bad plug/injector. 
2010 red candy metallic non PP 402B
AJPTURBO 2 BAR Tune Stock 14.1@100.3 / Tuned 12.83@107.7
K&N panel, RX OCC, Sp-534 @.30 Tint 50%F-35%R BOV bypass
1997 SHO silver frost (sold)
1990 SHO triple black 5-speed (saved my life)

Scott4957

Maybe check compression while you have the plug out? I would feel a whole lot better about it if I knew the compression was good.
2013 Lincoln MKS EcoBoost, AJP Tuned

SHOdded

Did you restart the car after reaching the shop?  Sometimes codes will show up during a run, but then the car will recover after a restart.  Error codes for both sensors means that we should be looking for a common source, such as perhaps oil starvation/foaming.  The phasers are pretty sensitive parts.  The filters could be clogged. Or in a worse case scenario, the timing chain could have jumped a tooth.

You have a 2011, so it is less likely, but still worth checking for a valve cover leak, which you will find during the course of checking Cyl 2 as suggested by glock & scott.

Have you ever had issues with pooling oil in the intake tubing or in the intercooler?  Do you monitor and clean those parts regularly?

What oil/filter have you been using in the SHO?  Check the oil to make sure there is no debris (dirt or metal, eg).

http://www.obd-codes.com/p0011
http://www.obd-codes.com/p0014

http://www.justanswer.com/volvo/1s538-check-engine-codes-p0011-p0014-mean.html

Not quite the same, but this thread may help:
http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,2463
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

sholxgt

Current - 2019 F150 Platinum FX4 3.5 EB
Formerly -2013 MKS Ecoboost Premium
PPE Catted DP's, 170 Reische TS, K&N Drop In, AJP Tune only at track - 12.87@106

irondoor19

Do not Know,

However i may have heard one (1) one Time, thought it was exhaust

and if soo.... ?

Ok Changed out Plug, Swapped Coils, Same Condition,

P0302 Code
P052C Code
lots of Smoke

what Fun
2010 Lincoln MKS, BONE Stock for Now, 2014 3.7L Police, Drop IN K&N,

SHOdded

A quick 1-2 second rattle is "normal" (though it can be eliminated with oil/filter combination), an extended rattle is not, and would be indicative of timing chain slack.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

JDW1

I would do a compression test.  What did the removed plug look like?  A pic of that would help.  I would have said disconnect the neg batt cable after swapping those things out but the smoke is whats concerning.  Any unusual engine noise? 
13 SHO, Unleashed 3bar Tune, 1 step cooler NGK's, MDesign CAI, 170 t-stat and meth.

Blackhawk

I second this,a compression and blow by test will tell if you did any piston or valve damage.   If the car is not making a bunch of noise then maybe it could be a blown turbo.
Quote from: JDW1 on June 14, 2016, 12:58:32 PM
I would do a compression test.  What did the removed plug look like?  A pic of that would help.  I would have said disconnect the neg batt cable after swapping those things out but the smoke is whats concerning.  Any unusual engine noise?

irondoor19

OK:

Pic of Oil infused Plug attached, Oil
was Changed 4K Miles Ago...
Nothing special about oil and Filter,
Compression test Tomorrow....

Yea my first thought was Blown Turbo
Oil Smoke For Sure - both Sides AND
no noise to speak of.....

"Well" may be time for the turbo Upgrade

OK: the car has been Put in the Back of the Shop, Were all Things Broken End UP
Check out the Oil Haze, and Blowing Smoke, No Mosquito Fogger Required.. :(

I was not logging at the time, so lost until the Mech Brings his tester..
2010 Lincoln MKS, BONE Stock for Now, 2014 3.7L Police, Drop IN K&N,

Scott4957

Did you get a chance to check compression? I want it to be a turbo but I am leaning the other way. Maybe someone with more experience on blowing up turbos can say but I wouldn't expect to see a plug that oiled from a bad turbo. I suppose depending on how the turbo failed it could blow smoke/oil through the intake track and oil the plugs causing smoke out both tail pipes from one bad turbo??? I would think that to be unlikely and there is a better chance of a blown head gasket or rings. Just spit balling here.
2013 Lincoln MKS EcoBoost, AJP Tuned

SHOdded

2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

Scott4957

You'll get her fixed! Any chance you were logging when this happened?
2013 Lincoln MKS EcoBoost, AJP Tuned

93Cobra

If you had the rattle at startup, then you probably have had your cam phasers going bad. The startup rattle fix and tsb now show that you get new chains, guides, and phasers. With your codes, sounds like this is what let loose. Now, you will have to tear down to see the extent of damage.

irondoor19

OK

Boys and Girls 170 PSI Cyl no 2
                    165 PSI Next to it

Plug next also Oil Soaked....

So off in another direction, 6 MONTHS LATER? OK to bring this to a Close:

Front Turbo is Gone, and i mean it lost a few pieces, Some of which we found in the Oil Filter
rear Turbo is as well, but no Pieces Missing, Both had a ton of play in the rotors, SO 19 PSI and 35K Miles, Yea I know how to break it...SO ATP install is done, Waiting on Oil Cooler Parts, and a
call to the Dyno Guy (i will be yelling just a bit) hoping the next round lasts more than a year...!
2010 Lincoln MKS, BONE Stock for Now, 2014 3.7L Police, Drop IN K&N,