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Unleashed tuning and Livernois tuning comparison on my SHO
« on: February 12, 2015, 11:46:33 AM »
Before anything, I just want to clarify that I am posting this with the sole purpose to show the difference in tunes on MY SHO.
I have  been working  with Torrie for the past weeks on my tune , by sending him data logs. He said he felt very good with last revised tune he sent me so I said it's time for the track .




Ran a 13.3 as soon as I got to the track . I said okay it must that it need to cool down . So I waited 2 hrs and went at it again . Ran a 13.1 both launches were at 2k and no wheels spin.




Not being happy with the times I removed the current tune and loaded the LMS 4x tune . So off to the staging lanes I went and ran a 13.0 with wheel spin . Waited for car to cool down for 20 minutes and this time I launched it 2500 big mistake cause I spinned  even more . Ran a 13.1 . Wished I could of ran again but staging lanes closed . So there you have the comparison of both tunes on my SHO .
« Last Edit: February 12, 2015, 01:03:16 PM by southtxSHO »
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Re: Unleashed tuning and Livernois tuning comparison on my SHO
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2015, 11:56:00 AM »
Since both tune ran 105.X MPH (almost identical) I'd say your power from both tunes is almost identical :)
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Re: Unleashed tuning and Livernois tuning comparison on my SHO
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2015, 12:03:11 PM »
Thanks for the comparison, this is great!
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Re: Unleashed tuning and Livernois tuning comparison on my SHO
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2015, 12:50:14 PM »
Good info there :thumb:
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Re: Unleashed tuning and Livernois tuning comparison on my SHO
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2015, 01:05:13 PM »
Great comparison...12's were so close

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Re: Unleashed tuning and Livernois tuning comparison on my SHO
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2015, 02:09:03 PM »
Very interesting...
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Re: Unleashed tuning and Livernois tuning comparison on my SHO
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2015, 02:17:22 PM »
Interesting for sure.

Puzzled as to why you waited only 20min in between both runs with the LMS file(s) AND you chose to launch 500rpms higher on the 2nd LMS pull?

Seems perhaps based on your results, you could've eek'd out a 12.9 at the minimum by launching at 2K & allowing a lil more cool down time.

Either way, LMS by a hair w/ the 13.0 flat.

Nice job & thanks for posting!

Both tuners should be commended for their respective efforts. Bravo! :clap2:
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Re: Unleashed tuning and Livernois tuning comparison on my SHO
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2015, 02:57:05 PM »
Interesting for sure.

Puzzled as to why you waited only 20min in between both runs with the LMS file(s) AND you chose to launch 500rpms higher on the 2nd LMS pull?

Seems perhaps based on your results, you could've eek'd out a 12.9 at the minimum by launching at 2K & allowing a lil more cool down time.

Either way, LMS by a hair w/ the 13.0 flat.

Nice job & thanks for posting!

Both tuners should be commended for their respective efforts. Bravo! :clap2:
I was hurrying up before track closed . It was already past the cutoff time to close the staging lanes . The reason I chose to go 500 rpm higher was that I wanted that 12s second so desperately  and felt confident it wouldn't spin which I was wrong .lol
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Re: Unleashed tuning and Livernois tuning comparison on my SHO
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2015, 02:58:30 PM »
I've been able to run a 12.8 with the LMS tune .
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Re: Unleashed tuning and Livernois tuning comparison on my SHO
« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2015, 03:44:09 PM »
I guess it goes to SHO you each tuners limitations and how aggressive they can go without causing any potential failures to the E.B platform,a great way to safeguard your vehicle and having to explain to your warranty company.

                  

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Re: Unleashed tuning and Livernois tuning comparison on my SHO
« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2015, 04:56:02 PM »
Several uncontrolled variables may have skewed results. But I do agree it at least confirms they're not too far apart in the performance spectrum.
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Re: Unleashed tuning and Livernois tuning comparison on my SHO
« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2015, 05:34:34 PM »
Glad they are so close. All I really saw was the same MPH which tells u everything. The actual time could be better for Unleashed tune if it was ran at the end of the day instead of before. In an hour or two things change. (track becomes stickier or weather). They are both great imo.
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Re: Unleashed tuning and Livernois tuning comparison on my SHO
« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2015, 07:33:49 PM »
What other mods does your car have besides a tune?

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Re: Unleashed tuning and Livernois tuning comparison on my SHO
« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2015, 04:29:55 PM »
Logging is not needed to tune on the EcoBoost platform, we have been preaching this for years. We never laid eyes on SOTX's SHO. And still won.

We know the inner-workings of the EB logic. We have put countless hours of time into the engineering of our own tuning software and hardware dev.

Thanks for the fair comparison. Clearly from the times, coupled with the fact that our runs had did not benefit from a 2 hour cool down, and the fat that it's overpowering the tires on the launch tells us what potential there is once you get traction with our tuning.

This is why we preach that datalogging is not required, because if you know how to tune these properly, then the car does everything you ask of it. Our out of the box tune outperforming a tune that has been tweaked for weeks just continues to show the amount of truth in what we are saying.
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Re: Unleashed tuning and Livernois tuning comparison on my SHO
« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2015, 07:30:05 PM »
Seeing as how you have the ability to swap tunes. Maybe try running Livernois tune for "say" a full day at least, and head to track with it as first runs. Then switch to the Torrie tunes.

Just an idea to try.

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